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The New Normal: Singleness in America
BreakPoint ^ | 11 Dec 03 | Chuck Colson

Posted on 12/11/2003 7:55:35 AM PST by Mr. Silverback

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To: Nakatu X
Well stated. We are becoming a very selfish society. A lot of this can be put at the feet of the baby boomers. Their parents risked all, while many of them only cared about the individual, which was a mantra passed on to their children. As a gen-x'er with a traditional family (a wife and two amazing children), I find my values to be more in line with the WWII generation than my parents generation. More focus on the important things, ie God and family, and less focus on materialism.

I believe humanity is about giving of one's self. As people continue to live alone, all they need to care for is numero uno, which will eventually be the total demise of our culture. This is why so many "older" who have children later in life have a difficult time adjusting to parenthood, because having children calls for selflessness.
321 posted on 12/11/2003 3:54:56 PM PST by X-Servative (Surviving in CA...)
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To: Jim Cane
"Once a man is tamed, women become bored. In my experience, if you are nice to women, they will leave you, and if you treat them with reckless disdain, they will cling."

Exactly. You hit the nail right on the head.
322 posted on 12/11/2003 4:04:37 PM PST by FLAMING DEATH (Why do I carry a .45? Because they don't make a .46!)
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes
I have YET to see ONE female member of this forum EVER say that the divorce laws in this country are unfair.

I've said it numerous times. Maybe I didn't always use the term FAIR, but I have repeatedly stated I don't think they are right.

323 posted on 12/11/2003 4:06:31 PM PST by Gabz (Smoke gnatzies - small minds buzzing in your business - swat'em!!!)
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To: Gabz
I've said it numerous times. Maybe I didn't always use the term FAIR, but I have repeatedly stated I don't think they are right.

OKAY Great ! You're the first ! lol

So ummmm, you seeing anybody????

324 posted on 12/11/2003 4:12:47 PM PST by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes
Typical typical typical

Obviously you haven't read any of my previous postings. So I will repeat the gist of them.......

No one should try to destroy another's life in or out of divorce court.

I have said along these laws that allow it are not right.

So I would call your response to me typical of a man with a bad attitude.

My ex wanted spousal support from me (In Delaware either spouse can pay it, it's based on who has a higher income). Fortunately even his lawyer laughed about it. Why did his lawyer do that - because I wanted NOTHING but out. Thankfully there were no children involved.

But I know lots of stories of women (many I know) who have been just as badly screwed by the sytem as you claim of omen.

Men are not the only victims in divorce court.

325 posted on 12/11/2003 4:23:03 PM PST by Gabz (Smoke gnatzies - small minds buzzing in your business - swat'em!!!)
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To: Hodar
The laws of the people's Republic of Washington need to be changed.

That is more than just simple fraud - that is theft, not just on the part of the woman - but by the state.
326 posted on 12/11/2003 4:24:47 PM PST by Gabz (Smoke gnatzies - small minds buzzing in your business - swat'em!!!)
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To: sonserae
Very sage advice.
327 posted on 12/11/2003 4:28:08 PM PST by Gabz (Smoke gnatzies - small minds buzzing in your business - swat'em!!!)
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To: Allegra
If I get married, I want it to be for the long haul. I want to be equally yoked as a Christian and I want a "manly-man," not one of those whiny metrosexuals.

Did I mention that I'm still (tragically) single? :D

328 posted on 12/11/2003 4:29:46 PM PST by Terabitten (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of All Who Threaten It)
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To: Hodar
My husband and I actually used to find those quizzes to be very humorous and enjoyed taking them and tearing apart the idiots who write them and then think they can psychoanalyze everyone on the planet.

Simple pleasures are where you choose to find them.

Now we have more fun making fun of liberals!!!!!!
329 posted on 12/11/2003 4:33:40 PM PST by Gabz (Smoke gnatzies - small minds buzzing in your business - swat'em!!!)
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes
I have, unfortunately, been married and divorced twice. The first time, I asked for nothing except minimal child support for our two children. I did not have an attorney, but his attorney reminded me that I was entitled to part of his 401K. I refused.
My second husband left me nothing but a bunch of bills he refused to help pay, and bad memories of his infidelity and abuse.
Not all women are out for what they can get.
330 posted on 12/11/2003 4:36:40 PM PST by LisaMalia (Buckeye Fan since birth!!)
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes
I'm happily married, but must say that if I wasn't and was looking, your attitude would cause me to run, not walk, in the opposite direction...regardless of your looks or wallet.
331 posted on 12/11/2003 4:38:27 PM PST by Gabz (Smoke gnatzies - small minds buzzing in your business - swat'em!!!)
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To: LisaMalia
On The Marriage Strike thread, I proposed that all the gals start a thread and post their marriage/divorce horror stories. Since we have all these threads about the men's stores, I thought it would be interesting to see other other side of the story.
332 posted on 12/11/2003 4:40:16 PM PST by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: Gabz
I'm happily married, but must say that if I wasn't and was looking, your attitude would cause me to run, not walk, in the opposite direction...regardless of your looks or wallet

What's wrong with my attitude specifically?

333 posted on 12/11/2003 4:41:14 PM PST by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: Texan5
Some of the single guys here should take notice that there are some single, self reliant women here that might appreciate a good man...

Consider it noticed. :)

334 posted on 12/11/2003 4:52:52 PM PST by Terabitten (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of All Who Threaten It)
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes
Specifically - like the rest of the misogynists on this thread you've bought into the garbage that all women believe the feminazi garbage that all men are low lifes and women should get everything they can out of them.

and that's just for starters.
335 posted on 12/11/2003 4:59:02 PM PST by Gabz (Smoke gnatzies - small minds buzzing in your business - swat'em!!!)
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To: Gabz
Specifically - like the rest of the misogynists on this thread you've bought into the garbage that all women believe the feminazi garbage that all men are low lifes and women should get everything they can out of them. and that's just for starters.

I never said ALL women. Nope, sorry.

I knew most of the gals on this thread would get annoyingly defensive. Always happens.

336 posted on 12/11/2003 5:07:41 PM PST by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: najida
Married regular sex, you mean once a year :)
337 posted on 12/11/2003 5:09:29 PM PST by DragonflyX
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To: Texan5
I think it is pure selfishness, brought on by listening to the feminazis all these years preaching that women need to be fulfilled, find themselves, do what they want to do, etc. The end result is that they just walk over their man and kids to find their own private Nirvana. They've started believing this bulls*** like it was gospel truth...

You just described my ex :) ... and I have my 4 year old son with me ... :)

338 posted on 12/11/2003 5:17:11 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Resolve to perform what you ought, perform without fail what you resolve.)
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To: Gabz
Specifically - like the rest of the misogynists on this thread you've bought into the garbage that all women believe the feminazi garbage that all men are low lifes and women should get everything they can out of them. and that's just for starters.

I never said ALL women. Nope, sorry.

I knew most of the gals on this thread would get annoyingly defensive. Always happens.

339 posted on 12/11/2003 5:19:45 PM PST by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: Jim Cane
Preach it brother!!!!

Exactly right. A tamed man is like a completed project to women.

340 posted on 12/11/2003 5:26:46 PM PST by Hammerhead
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