[jim35]

Remember Ross Perot? All the pundits blame the first George Bush for losing the election, but it was of this "third party" candidate, that we got 8 years of Clinton! Voting for someone in an obscure unknown party to punish GW is the surest way to give Dean the presidency, then you'll see what the difference is but by then it will be too late!!!!

[af_vet_1981]

There is no way I will support Howard Dean or any other traitor taking the WH in 2004.

[No Blue States]

Agreed. Yeah i Remember Ross, I even liked him at 1st.

A wise freeper here taught me that the whole motive to be into politics is to win elections for your guy, what good is voting my principles if i lose? that doesnt get ANY of my agenda pushed forward. Worse it could put a radical lefty in charge. No one can satisfy all my political needs. Not Even Bush or some 3rd party.

As in the CA recall (even though a Texan doesnt have a vote in it), i learned there may be a conservative that i would like to vote for but who cant win. So i would have voted for Arnold. For the simple reason that he was the candidate closest to my beliefs who had a CHANCE to win.

Nothing but Victory (even piecemeal)for my agenda is the motive for my politics.

therefore..BUSH/CHENEY 2004

[baxter999]

Bush has lowered taxes and fought a war. He also signed the partial birth abortion law. That's it. On the other hand, he's also caused incredible damage to conservatism and this country. This bill is bad. Everyone knew it was bad. The supreme court is liberal so many of us realized that they would not overturn this bill. So either Bush is stupid or he didn't care. Either way, HE SIGNED THIS BILL! He deserves contempt.

Quit pretending that the only alternative to Bush is Dean or Clinton. This is a time-honored, despicable debating trick and unworthy of serious debate.

The better question is "Who should we support now that Bush has shown his true colors again and again?"