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Canadian flag causes flap in the U.S.
Ottawa Citizen | December 8, 2003 | Jack Aubry

Posted on 12/08/2003 12:40:28 PM PST by albertabound

Canadian flag causes flap in the U.S. Maple Leaf on baggage irks 'sensitive' Americans

Jack Aubry The Ottawa Citizen

OTTAWA -- Canadians should be careful not to appear "boastful" to Americans, who are insecure because of the war in Iraq and admit they are annoyed by northerners showing off the red maple leaf on their luggage when they travel, a recent federal report warns.

In focus groups held this fall in four U.S. cities where the federal government is opening consulates, Americans acknowledged they don't know much about Canadians.

"Some participants expressed a certain amount of annoyance at what is perceived as a systematic attempt by Canadians to make the statement that they are not Americans by sporting the maple leaf," said the recently released report. "This underscores the American sensitivity at feeling rejected by the rest of the world ...."

A front-page story by the New York Times this week, which declared that Canada's stance on social issues is opening rifts with the U.S., is unwittingly confirmed with the findings of the report.

Canadian comedian Rick Mercer said at a recent Toronto show that being attached to America is like "being in a pen with a wounded bull," joking that between gay marriage and pot smoking, "it's a wonder there is not a giant deck of cards out there with all our faces on it."

The report says even Americans who blame the Bush administration to some extent for the country's poor relations with the world, do not seem to understand why friendly countries and neighbours such as Canada would want to distance themselves from Americans.

For instance, an American from San Diego is quoted saying: "What bugs me about Canadians, if I may, is that they wear that damn patch on their bags, the Canadian flag patch. That way, they differentiate themselves from us."

The report is based on eight focus groups conducted in September by Millward Brown Goldfarb in San Diego, Raleigh, Denver and Houston where Canadian consulates are in the process of opening.

Pierre Bechard, a spokesman for Foreign Affairs and International Trade Canada, said Millward Brown Goldfarb was paid $49,543 for the October report and focus groups. He said the findings will act as a base for the consulates to work to understand how much Americans understand about Canada and how they feel about their relationship with their northern neighbours.

© Copyright 2003 Vancouver Sun


TOPICS: Canada
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To: albertabound
Alberta bound...one of my favorite Lightfoot tunes.
A big ole bump to our 51st State...the Maple leaf State.
Now what was the percentage of the Canadian polulation that lives within 50 miles of the US border?
81 posted on 12/08/2003 1:50:27 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: BraveMan
Once you get past Customs, it gets much better!

Oh yeah? Try speaking "Americun" in Quebec.

82 posted on 12/08/2003 1:50:27 PM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: Maelstrom
I care about freedom-loving individuals in Canada in the same sense that I care about freedom-loving individuals in Iraq or New Zealand or Iran or anywhere else.

What I don't care about is some sort of phony rivalry or "rift" which some Canadians seem to have conjured up between our two countries and which exists only in their own minds.

83 posted on 12/08/2003 1:51:28 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Lancey Howard
Americans care as much about Canada as they do, say, New Zealand, France, or Brazil. Which is not at all.

Untrue. France has good wine and cheese. New Zealand has good white wine and kiwi fruit. As for Brazil? Coffee!!

But ever since "Kids in the Hall" was cancelled, Canada isn't producing anything worth caring about.

(Note to the humorless, the above is intended as a joke. I like Canada just fine, even if their politics makes the Democratic Party look pretty good by comparison.)

84 posted on 12/08/2003 1:51:55 PM PST by Snuffington
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To: Porterville
I like their cedar trees.

Some good comedians, and a couple good rock bands, too. I didn't say Canada had no interesting exports to speak of :)

85 posted on 12/08/2003 1:52:14 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Hatteras
Kinda like this? (sorry -- I just whipped it up in a couple of seconds):


86 posted on 12/08/2003 1:52:18 PM PST by Theo
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To: Trailerpark Badass
Perhaps they have such a report they claim in the article, but the comments from a guy from San Diego must be faked. Americans give a sh** how foreigners show their patriotism... at least if they´re not from Vietnam, Afghanistan or Palestine. :-)
87 posted on 12/08/2003 1:52:50 PM PST by Michael81Dus
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To: bayourod
I was sworn in as an honorary Texan in 1977 by Hayden Fry.
88 posted on 12/08/2003 1:53:19 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Theo
I was wondering if it wasn't a figure-ground thing. Thanks for making it obvious because I couldn't see it at all. I am really bad at figure-ground images. Once I see it one way, I can't switch without help from somebody else.
89 posted on 12/08/2003 1:55:10 PM PST by Irene Adler
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To: albertabound
Canadians are a bunch of yapping poodles being directed by their union masters.
90 posted on 12/08/2003 1:55:12 PM PST by hgro
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To: Michael81Dus
Americans give a sh** how foreigners show their patriotism... at least if they´re not from Vietnam, Afghanistan or Palestine.

What are you talking about? What makes you think Americans have any problem with Vietnamese or Afghan patriotism?

91 posted on 12/08/2003 1:55:57 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
You sir are one of the most privileged people on earth.
92 posted on 12/08/2003 1:56:45 PM PST by bayourod (Don't start no shit won't be no shit.)
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To: BlackRazor

Actually, the reason they display their flag on their stuff is so they aren't mistaken as Americans when travelling abroad, in the hopes that it will ward off any terrorist attacks that might be aimed at Americans.

Yeah, right, terrorists are such straight shooters. They always go out of their way to avoid any collateral damage.

93 posted on 12/08/2003 1:58:43 PM PST by Dan Evans
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To: Michael81Dus
This is funny, even though it´s probably created by Leftists

We all deal with stereotypes, that´s what makes fun out.

Your post #50 is very funny, and, of course, xenophobia isn't restricted to the U.S. Actually, it's also within countries. My grandmother, for instance, once warned me (a Texan) against dating a New Yorker, because, "They're not like us".

My Polish in-laws in New Jersey despise their next door neighbors because "they're Italian". As far as I'm concerned, the only people I don't like are the ones that play that godawful rap boom box music really loud in their cars with the windows rolled down, while waiting at red lights and you've got to sit there and listen to it.:D

94 posted on 12/08/2003 1:59:16 PM PST by xJones
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To: Dr. Frank
My plan is to conquer Canada and take their natural resources. They hibernate in the winter so we could probably do it in January while they are sleeping. The french Canadians may prove to be a problem because they don't hibernate, instead they drink and steal from the sleeping Canucks... but since they are drunk we just have to offer them that nasty wine from france.
95 posted on 12/08/2003 1:59:57 PM PST by Porterville (No communist or french)
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To: Dr. Frank
Please define Afghan patriotism. It´s possible that they could show signs of support for the Taliban and Mullah Omar. The same could apply to Vietnam, the country America has lost 55,000 brave men in.
96 posted on 12/08/2003 2:00:57 PM PST by Michael81Dus
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To: Michael81Dus
There's NOTHING wrong with the stickers - and there is also a 99.999% probability that NOBODY in the USA cares about their stickers on luggage one way or another.

The problem was only with the propaganda article that is designed to INSTIGATE HATE! An this from a country that has passed laws OUTLAWING HATE!

Yeah - right!
97 posted on 12/08/2003 2:02:42 PM PST by steplock (www.FOCUS.GOHOTSPRINGS.com)
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Poor little Americans - can give it but can't take it.
98 posted on 12/08/2003 2:03:01 PM PST by kever
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To: Heatseeker
I'll be flamed for saying this I'm sure, but I don't have a problem with Canadians displaying the Maple Leaf.

It doesn't bother me either.

99 posted on 12/08/2003 2:03:12 PM PST by TankerKC
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To: Porterville
The french Canadians may prove to be a problem because they don't hibernate, instead they drink and steal from the sleeping Canucks... but since they are drunk we just have to offer them that nasty wine from france.

Sounds like the makings of a plan. And as far as I can tell, you can distract anyone who's still conscious simply by putting on a hockey match of some kind. Draft the NHL into your conspiracy, put on a few carefully-timed exhibition matches, watch the arenas fill, lock the doors behind them, and the country is yours for the taking. Bwahahaha!! I love it when a plan comes together.

100 posted on 12/08/2003 2:03:55 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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