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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 7 Dec 2003
Various big media television networks ^ | 7 Dec 2003 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 12/07/2003 4:27:42 AM PST by Alas Babylon!

The Talk Shows



Sunday, December 7th, 2003

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): White House Chief of Staff Andrew H. Card Jr. and former Vermont governor Howard Dean (D).

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Former House speaker Newt Gingrich (R-GA) and Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY).

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) and White House Chief of Staff Andrew H. Card.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Former Israeli justice minister Yossi Beilin, former Palestinian information minister Yasser Abed Rabbo and Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY).

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Chuck Hagel (R-NE) and Christopher J. Dodd (D-CT); King Abdullah of Jordan; Dore Gold, adviser to Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon; former Palestinian information minister Yasser Rabbo; Israeli justice minister Yossi Beilin; and White House Chief of Staff Andrew H. Card.


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To: Howlin
my guess is that Dean is scaring the hell out of the clintons, becasue he will throw them out on control of the DNC....the beast may be running, knowing she will lose, just to maintain their power base....
241 posted on 12/07/2003 7:24:33 AM PST by The Wizard (Saddamocrats are enemies of America, treasonous everytime they speak)
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To: All
the beast is repulsive
242 posted on 12/07/2003 7:26:25 AM PST by The Wizard (Saddamocrats are enemies of America, treasonous everytime they speak)
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To: NittanyLion
I know you're right, her detractors vastly outnumber her supporters. But it's like Iraq right now. As long as the clintons are alive politically, there is the dreaded fear they may return to power. And I DO mean FEAR.
243 posted on 12/07/2003 7:26:40 AM PST by small voice in the wilderness
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To: Peach
But the truth is, she is a formidable candidate and it will take far more work on our part to see her downed by defeat.

And if we really want to defeat her, along with a good book to give out, make a number of copies of THIS and hand it out, and explain it to all friends and neighbors on the fence in election season, 2004!!!This is IMPORTANT.

If Hillary throws herself into the race next year, the following paragraphs may go a long way to explain to your neighbors and friends who she really is and keep her out of office. Make some copies of it please, or bookmark it for the future, because it goes right to her very inapropriate, controlling, socialist personality and plans. If she ever dives in, the lamestream media will go along and paint a very positive picture of the "woman". Look for instance how Viacom removed the thunderous boos of the police and the fireman and their families at the 9/11 Concert in New York. This type of thing goes on every day to her benefit and at the same time to the injury to the country.

In the event she gets in, you and I owe it to the country to hand this out to our friends and neighbors who are on the election fence in 2004, and help explain to them who Hillary Clinton really is. She will continue to be a real threat as long as a substantial proportion of the media is quite willing to protect her and promote her as in the past.

Educating your friends and neighbors is ultimately important, and it will work if it is done in each neighborhood and town in this country.

****** In the early 70’s Hillary, through Marian Edelman was hired as a research assistant by the Carnegie Council on Children, a blue ribbon panel of eleven ‘experts’ assembled by the Carnegie Corporation. Its mandate, in part, was to respond to the concerns of sociologist Uri Bronfenbrenner, who had compared child rearing in the Soviet Union and the United States, and found the United States wanting. The Council’s book-length report, 'All Our Children', is MUST reading for anyone who seeks to understand Hillary Rodham’s plan for the future of American families.

The Carnegie panelists started with the assumption that the triumph of the “universal entitlement state” was an inevitability, and the best thing Americans could do for their children was to hasten its arrival. Just as families in an earlier era turned their children’s education over to the public schools, the report argued, so in the future should government assume responsibilities for many other areas of children’s lives. This being so, there was no reason to feel guilty about or harbor concern for the rising rate of divorce. The decline of the nuclear family need not be worrisome, because “schools, doctors, and counselors and social workers provide their support whether the family is intact or not. One loses less by divorce today because marriage provides fewer kinds of sustenance and satisfaction.”

More significantly, 'All Our Children' offers a blueprint for undermining the authority of parents whose values the authors consider outmoded. The chapter entitled, “Protection of Children Rights,” the section on which Hillary worked, observes that “it has become necessary for society to make some piecemeal accommodations to prevent parents from denying children certain privileges that society wants them to have.” The report goes on to advocate laws allowing children to consult doctors on matters involving drug use and pregnancy without parental notification, and preventing schools from “unilaterally” suspending or expelling disruptive students.

But this is just the beginning. The Carnegie panel further calls for developing a new class of “public advocates” who will speak for children’s interests on a whole range of issues, from the environment to race relations: “In a simpler world, parents were the only advocates for children. This is no longer true. In a complex society both children and parents need canny advocates."

The report goes on to suggest that “child ombudsmen” be placed in public institutions and some sort of insurance be introduced to enable individual children to hire “decently paid” private attorneys to represent their interests. The possibilities for child advocacy would seem to be endless. For example the report says, attorneys could bring class-action lawsuits to hold corporations liable for FUTURE damages their businesses might cause to TODAY’S children.

This is the voice of people who think they know all the answers and want to use children as a tool to impose their will on others. Is it really time for the government to take even more control and responsibility for your children? I don't think so, and I don't think the majority of you, your friends, and your neighbors feel that way either. That is why it might be good to make this available to them if Hillary jumps in.

In 1972 Hillary spoke at a Democrat platform meeting in Boston. Hillary Rodham testified in favor of a platform that would extend civil and political rights to children. Her position went even beyond that of the Children’s Defense Fund or the Carnegie Council. In an article published in November 1973 in the Harvard Educational Review, she advocated liberating our “child citizens” from the “empire of the father.” This was good feminist reasoning for which the rationale can be found in the writings of Simone de Beauvoir and Jean-Paul Sartre. (“There is no good father, that’s the rule,’ Sartre said. “Don’t lay the blame on men but on the bond of paternity, which is rotten.”)

In Hillary’s own words, “The basic rationale for depriving people of their rights in a dependency relationship is that certain individuals are incapable or undeserving of the right to take care of themselves and consequently need social institutions to safeguard their position…….. Along with the family, past and present examples of such arrangements include marriage, slavery, and the Indian reservation system.”******

This ‘It Takes a Village Idiot’, Hillary Rodham Clinton, belongs NOWHERE remotely near the Presidency!

244 posted on 12/07/2003 7:27:40 AM PST by thesummerwind (like painted kites, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: All
listening to this witch laughing is enough to keep her out of office...who would want this creaton in the White House....

She called Tim a native New Yorker not herself....

245 posted on 12/07/2003 7:28:15 AM PST by The Wizard (Saddamocrats are enemies of America, treasonous everytime they speak)
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To: maica
That was a great comment on Hill's trip,,and that is fighting smart!!
246 posted on 12/07/2003 7:28:30 AM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: Howlin
Okay, if no tough questions are allowed, perhaps someone can at least ask her if she sold enough Mary Kay products to win that pink cadillac she's wearing.
247 posted on 12/07/2003 7:29:15 AM PST by arasina (I can't believe I said that.)
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To: small voice in the wilderness
There's probably no sense watching Hillary on the George Stephanapolous show. If only they'd let George Will have a go at her.
248 posted on 12/07/2003 7:29:22 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Howlin
Russert asks if she really believes Bush is tying his Iraq policy to his own re-election as she clearly stated. She backtracked, said, 'I hope not'. "there's clearly a lot to worry about", she said, but did not repeat her allegation.

She does say Bush didn't level with us, and she keeps saying what "she heard on the ground in Iraq". As if the soldiers would level with her. She wants "straight talk from the administration". HA! She wouldn't recognize that if she heard it.

"you know, I have no way of knowing....." she should say that more often!!!!

(I meant to count the times she said, "you know".)

She's covering her ample ass with equivication, and interestingly, aligning herself with Newt's criticism of the war plan, which she says we'll read about this week.

Shiney pink pop beads....nice touch.

Listen folks, from what I'm hearing, Hillary is moving her ample ass to the right, and who can blame her? She knows how popular this commander in chief is, she wants to be kinder and gentler.

She absolutely refuses to say whether or not she would send more soldiers to Iraq, she absolutely refuses to say what she would do if she were president. Russert is trying to nail her....it ain't happening..she's slicker than snot. She will not commit to what she would do if Bush asks for more troops, even tho while she was there, she said we need more troops.

"you know, you know...."

She's careful to applaud the troops, but bash the war plan. "I don't think we know", whether Iraq is a bigger threat now. Man oh man, she really is being super cautious in her criticism of Bushs....very super cautious. 'On the other hand" should be her middle name....this morning. This morning, she's speaking to the national electorate....not the Democratic base....smart cookie.

Hillary says, "No", I do not regret giving the president the authority to go to war, but I do regret the way he abused it.

Russert questions her about what she said while in Iraq. Was it appropriate to criticize the president in Iraq? She blames these accusations on right wing talk shows. HAHAHAH

"I wasn't going to lie to that soldier from Fort Drum New York, she says. HAHAHAH.

"you know, you know"
"globalization of information"
"happy talk"
"I believe Osama is alive and is in Afghanistan" "NATO hasn't done it's part" "(Second time she's bashed NATO, not Bush)

Oh goodie, now we get to hear how Hillary dances around Dean! " Well, Tim, I've taken a neutral position, I'm not going to comment on any of our candidates." "We need to do more on Homeland Security".

Biggest Lie of the Day?
"That in 2008 I will be supporting the re-election of a democratic president."

249 posted on 12/07/2003 7:29:43 AM PST by YaYa123 (@Hillary's Selling Hillary This Morning....and I ain't buying!.com)
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To: Howlin
The other thing is that a lot of Democrats are scared to death of Howard Dean; she offers what appears to them to be a palatable, known alternative.

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Remember how many Americans can not name the Vice-president or any cabinet officer. HRC has the name recognition which to a lot of people equates to competence.

If she hijacks the convention next summer and her so-called husband does his book tour during the Republican convention, she will get the votes of the masses who believe the 'buzz' about Bush=bad, just as they all believed that Quayle was stupid.

She has 100% name recognition which is a powerful asset.
250 posted on 12/07/2003 7:30:56 AM PST by maica (Laus Deo)
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To: The Wizard
Dean is going to fire Terry, the bagman.
251 posted on 12/07/2003 7:31:47 AM PST by Howlin
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To: YaYa123
the beast just confirmed her right wing conspiracy remarks......once a whore always a whore
252 posted on 12/07/2003 7:31:50 AM PST by The Wizard (Saddamocrats are enemies of America, treasonous everytime they speak)
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To: Peach
Good God, I've got Hillary! vs. Hillary! Face the Nation is on the same time as Steffie.

I wonder if any of the Packer pregame shows are on early.

253 posted on 12/07/2003 7:32:09 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: All
Seems as tho Wallace is going after Dean in an incisive way. As much, if not more, than after Card. IMMHO. I still haven't made any decision on him (Wallace)

It will be interesting to see who's on top of the hill in the upcoming panel discussion. I'm glad Brit is there.

254 posted on 12/07/2003 7:32:21 AM PST by Exit148
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To: Peach
Did she not just lie and say she is a "native New Yorker"?
255 posted on 12/07/2003 7:32:34 AM PST by Helms (Liberalism is a faux compassion that condescends at best and subjugates at worse)
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To: The Wizard
The Whore of Babble-On
256 posted on 12/07/2003 7:32:42 AM PST by arasina (I can't believe I said that.)
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To: All
she talks about "Bill Clinton" like he was some guy she met....
257 posted on 12/07/2003 7:33:03 AM PST by The Wizard (Saddamocrats are enemies of America, treasonous everytime they speak)
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To: maica
Oh, goodie. George Will IS going to ask HC questions. Excellent.
258 posted on 12/07/2003 7:33:11 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: thesummerwind
Is there a compilation, source list, quotes etc, on Hillary, that's more recent than the 1970's?
259 posted on 12/07/2003 7:33:36 AM PST by visualops (Dean: "One revolver and a beer hall short of a good Putsch.")
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To: YaYa123
I'm TRYING to listen, honestly! I just can't take her.

I hate everything about her; her voice, her chumminess with the men (you NEVER see her interviewed by women).

Gawd, she is nauseating.
260 posted on 12/07/2003 7:33:46 AM PST by Howlin
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