MESSAGE IS FOR GOVERNOR HOWARD DEAN

"...we feel that providing Military ceremony and honors to anyone that did not deserve them cheapens the meaning and sidesteps the intent of reserving such honors for those that gave their lives earning them."

ABSOLUTELY...let's build a FREEPER fire under this issue by sending a personal eMail to Dean.

Remember what they gave for the kennedy kiddos who flew their plane into the water?

Full military including naval vessels, etc!

Ever wonder WHY teddie bear kennedy changed his mind about flying with him?

Just another "arkacide"....since hillary is revving her engines for more power, look for many many more "accidents" to begin occuring again!

I think we should hold off on all dean attacks until he becomes the rat nominee, then hit him with extreme force regarding this, the sealed records, his role with Planned Baby Butchering, his poor little spinal deformity that only allowed him to ski and not serve, etc.

That's actually a good plan. Standard Demo tactics are to get the dirty stuff out early so that later they can say "Oh, that's just rehashing old news...", etc. Keep the powder dry until this lunatic sews up the nomination then use it if necessary.

Personally, I think he's going to blow himself up several times over, but it's always wise to be prepared.

Concur 100% -- this story has bothered me since it came out last week, and I think this story is even worse than the "Larry Lawrence" incident during the Clinton presidency.

At least Clinton could maintain that he, like others, had ben conned by Lawrence.

In this case, Dean and others have apparently pulled strings to get the military treatment for Dean's bother.

Dean's brother was a war protestor /McGovern organizer, and as a rich-kid he was in Laos:

1) at best, on a journey of "self-discovery" travelling with another disaffected "photo-journalist" and on their way to Nepal (!!), presumably to "achieve oneness" or something like that;

2) or worse, documenting American "atrocities" in our "secret war".

Dean gets away with hypothesizing that his brother "might, for all I [Dean] know" have been working for the CIA. Well, stated that way, ANYBODY "might" have been working for the CIA. But the probability is smaller than a snowball's chance in Hell.

So -- Dean has pulled off a scam to hide his brother's past, which discourages similar efforts at Dean's own past.

And the press is gloriously incurious about the whole matter.

Well, the question is - WHO in the chain of command ordered military honors for Dean's brother ??

We need to know, and that person MUST be held accountable for their disrespect to those that have served honorably.

his poor little spinal deformity that only allowed him to ski and not serve, etc.

In 1971, Dean, who had been a wrestling team captain in high school, received a draft deferment for an unfused vertebra in his back. In the Aug. 15, 2002, Aspen Times, Dean said he "skied 80 days" in Aspen during the winter of 1971-72. The Times reported that Dean "loved skiing bumps," otherwise known as moguls. (Some health publications note that moguls can put particular stress on the spine.) "It was a great time to be a kid and do something relatively fun," Dean recalled. He added that he also worked that year "pouring concrete."

Time reported on Aug. 11, 2003, that Dean spent the year "skiing and bumming around. … He hit the slopes, tried pot, washed dishes, poured concrete and drank impressive amounts of beer." On June 22, 2003, Tim Russert asked Dean on Meet the Press, "Why were you able to ski on Ajax Mountain, pounding your back, and pouring concrete, and not serve in the military?"

Dean told Russert, "I was given an examination. I had a previous back problem, which is evidently congenital, which prevented me from doing any sustained running, a problem that I've had since then, since that time, which requires that when I get out of the car I often have some pains up and down my leg and back and so forth. But I have been able to exercise [and have] a vigorous athletic life except for some things. One of those is long-distance running, which is how the problem came to my attention in the first place. I noticed the pain when I was in high school running track. … After the physical, I received a 1-Y deferment, [which] means you can only be called in times of national emergency. I didn't have anything to do with choosing any draft deferment. … The United States government said this is your classification. I'm not responsible for that."

Dr. Dean got the medical deferment, but in a recent interview he said he probably could have served had he not mentioned the condition. "I guess that's probably true," he said. "I mean, I was in no hurry to get into the military."

In the 10 months after his graduation from Yale, time he might otherwise have spent in uniform, Dr. Dean lived the life of a ski bum in Aspen, Colo. His back condition did not affect his skiing the way the rigors of military service would have, he said, nor did it prevent him from taking odd jobs like pouring concrete in the warm months and washing dishes when it got cold.

Even the candidate's mother, Andree Maitland Dean, said in a recent interview about his skiing after receiving a medical deferment, "Yeah, that looks bad."

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I ask Doc Howie Dean:

Doc Dean, what was your preference in skincare in Aspen when you went skiing for eight months directly after the military let you out of your obligation -- after you showed them those "x-rays"? Did you prefer 'Reflectant Sunscreen Cream', 'Sun E45 High protection Lotion', or the 'Coppertone Ultrashade 23 Lotion' -- it provides your skin's natural sunburn protection while simultaneously providing a unique method of skin hydration. Skin protection is maintained for eight hours during water sports and vigorous exercise such as skiing in Aspen. So Doc, what's the scoop, eh?"

"Well, the question is - WHO in the chain of command ordered military honors for Dean's brother ??
We need to know, and that person MUST be held accountable for their disrespect to those that have served honorably."

That, my freind, is the question which MUST be answered NOW. This might be a case for Jug Burkett, who wrote "stolen Valor".

Umm, before you start firing off e-mails, you might want to know that:

1. Two servicemen's remains came on that same plane, I assume you'll think it's OK for them to get the full treatment?

2. There is a good possibility that some remains of servicemen are mixed in with those of Mr. Dean - better safe than sorry was the military's thinking, I've read.

3. At least reporters were alloed at this "homecoming", which of course is not the case with our fallen men and women coming home from Iraq.

November 28, 2003
This Will Teach Me To Move A Little Slower

Recently I wrote a post about Howard Dean's brother receiving military honors that he did not receive. While he still received those honors which he still has not earned, it turns out that the honor guard was present with the remains for a reason:

Though Charlie Dean and his friend were civilians, they were given military honors, officials said, on the chance that the remains include those of service members missing in the Vietnam War.

"We don't know who we have until the lab says who we have," said Lt. Col. Gerald O'Hara, a spokesman for the Joint P.O.W./M.I.A. Accounting Command, which runs the international recovery missions and the forensic laboratory here. "Ninety-eight percent of the missing from this war were service members. We're treating everyone as if they could be a service member."

I feel bad for jumping to a conclusion before taking the time to learn the entire story. While I still find it suspicious that the identification of these particular remains are being "fast tracked," as stated in the article I previously quoted from, it is clear that something is going on here that is not being reported. I would like to make clear that at this time I do not feel that Howard Dean had anything to do with the way his brother's remains were handled. I am also going to refrain from further comment about this topic until more information arises.

Its not easy for me to admit a mistake, but when I make one I want it known that I will admit to it and take full responsibility.

http://sayanything.typepad.com/sayanything/2003/11/this_will_teach.html

Hi and welcome to Free Republic. From the New York Times:

Asked by The Quad-City Times, which is based in Davenport, Iowa, to complete the sentence "My closest living relative in the armed services is," Dr. Dean wrote in August, "My brother is a POW/MIA in Laos, but is almost certainly dead."

Dean lied and your spin doesn't wash, his brother wasn't in the armed services.

Question: Why doe shte army refer to his brother as POW/MIA?

i hear CIA rumours and in fact his brother was killed because they THOUGHT he was a spy...maybe he was?

PS: I didn't post "spin", I posted the truth, the reason he recieved the military ceremony he did - it wasn't for him it was in case there were military remains in there too.

Something not one person has acknowledged in this thread.

I sure hope you didn't actually write the letters that were the topic of this thread...or maybe some of you did and recieved the same response I posted?

(PS: I am a returning freeper actually, I just can't for the life of me remember my old username...haven't been by in over ayear. Thanks for the welcome back.)

Merry Christmas!