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Rush Limbaugh deserves prosecution
Journal Standard ^ | Don Gaines

Posted on 12/04/2003 11:04:54 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

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To: robertpaulsen
"If Rush broke the law, sure, he should receive the approproiate punishment -- no more or less than any other person in similar circumstances."

good morning, RP... be careful what you ask for!

"Just breaking the law will suffice...for" -RP

so now we must believe that RP NEVER breaks a law! IMHO, going 56 in a 55 zone is breaking the law.... but that's different 'cause everybody does it!
101 posted on 12/05/2003 8:49:41 AM PST by pageonetoo (Rush is Right. But, his drug use was wrong! That's OK, he's Rush, it's gotta be OK!)
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To: witnesstothefall
>> Does the fact that Rush was high on opiates while discoursing on the air affect his standing with dittoheads even a little? His alleged criminality aside, doesn't his opiate-addled brain mean anything to you? lol


You can project your anger, frustration and disappointment elsewhere, but the truth will out. <<

Will it now? Then let's deal with a little. Oxycotin and Vicodin do not necessarily induce a high, especially in people who have been taking it over a period of time. They are specifically tailored for time release. To obtain a drug induced high, you have to crush or otherwise alter the tablets to defeat the time release mechanism. Of course when you do that, you really defeat the pain management effect since the medication spends itself over to brief a time frame.
102 posted on 12/05/2003 9:03:48 AM PST by CMAC51
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To: pageonetoo
"going 56 in a 55 zone is breaking the law"

But certainly this is not a valid law in your eyes, is it?

I mean, have I committed force or fraud on another? Have I harmed anyone? Don't tell me that you, too, join the ranks of the hypocrites who think others should be punished for breaking laws they themselves disagree with.

103 posted on 12/05/2003 10:10:17 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
I'm supporting Rush you mental midget. He's a great benefit to conservatives everywhere. Also, I've never really heard him harp a lot on the Drug War in general and do not think he is a hypocrite like the mass media has been insinutating.

However, I pinged the Wod_list because Drug Warriors are quick to condem ANYONE messing with the illicit drug trade. Thanks for verifying the double-standard for us.

104 posted on 12/05/2003 10:43:41 AM PST by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: robertpaulsen
"Don't tell me that you, too, join the ranks of the hypocrites who think others should be punished for breaking laws they themselves disagree with."

of course not! I just get tired of reading posts from apologists, on a crusade for their Hero, without thinking through the ramifications, of their posts. You support the WOD, I am against the WOD. You support prosecution of criminals, and SO DO I! Where we seem to divide, is when the laws are unfairly prosecuted, or used as an unfair application of control, or misappropriation, of Individual Rights.
I like to read all of the threads, I can, on FR, not just the drug-related ones. "Conservatives" don't seem to be well-represented on this site, though there is much attention paid to "conservative" causes, and thought. Many posters, though, will immediately disagree, and claim they are the truly conservative.
But in reading volumes of posts, it seems many of those writing have never heard of Rights, or at least seem to think it is OK to look the other way, if it doesn't affect them (right now). Or, they pick and choose which Rights are inviolable, and want to go along when someone take rights away from others, because it fits their idea of good/bad!

I am sure I have been a hypocrite, many, many times. I have five children, ranging in age from my 32 yr old LEO son, down to my 14 yr old high school daughter. They see how I live, and enjoy the fruits of my labors. I endeavor to be true to them, and to God. We all see things with our own biases, and prejudices, so we all are part of the system.

Regarding Rush, i have enjoyed listening to his show since 1987. He has had me rolling in the floor (figuratively), with his "updates", etc. But, I see one post where the poster claims Rush has been a one-man show, for the conservative cause. I think he made it because there were so many folk wanting to hear what he said. If someone else had been in the right place, they may have been the hero.
The marketplace is all about supply and DEMAND. The supply was short, Rush became the supply (by way of a man with money, and an idea for a conservative talk show-[and if you have listened to him for any time, know who that man is]). He formulated an attractive product, with great entertaining values, and has ridden the wave. He has done well, and deserves it. That is an example of capitalism, at its best. I have Rush ties. I have a Rush coffe cup. I also think he is a pompous ass, at times, and get tired quickly these days, of listening to the same point, repeated, repeated, repeated, repeated... and I change the radio. But, I still like the ties, and drink coffee everyday (though not always with the same cup). Rush needs our prayers, but he also needs to be held to the same standards. Many of those represented herein, seem to think he should be exonerated, and his misdeeds overlooked, BEFORE THEY KNOW THE FACTS! They are the most vocal ones saying "wait"!

I have used this tag line, for a few days, just to poke fun!

I hope those supporting, and condoning Rush's use of drugs, (admittedly for recreational purposes -getting high) see the double standard that is being applied.

I am not a druggie, though I have played one in the past. I do not think that all drugs should be legalized, but see nothing in the Founding Documents, that give rise to our nanny state mentality, of today!

If hemp were made legal today, I would go to the store and buy some... I enjoyed the way it affected me, much more than my margaritas, or Cabernet! I never lost control, while smoking 'marijuana'.
Thanks for the reparte', and thanks for putting up with my long sentence structure.!
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105 posted on 12/05/2003 10:56:51 AM PST by pageonetoo (Rush is Right. But, his drug use was wrong! That's OK, he's Rush, it's gotta be OK!)
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To: TKDietz
And some of these drugs appear to be every bit as addictive or more than drugs like meth, cocaine and so on.

I've only personally known one opiate addict. He was addicted to morphine, and got off of that with methadone. Then he started back in on hydrocodone, and then oxycodone. And he got it all from the VA.

106 posted on 12/05/2003 11:00:21 AM PST by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: pageonetoo
" I never lost control, while smoking 'marijuana'. "

Just to clarify something, before I forget (short term memory...LOL). I drink a couple of glasses of wine a day. I occasionally exchange them for a couple of Margaritas.

I have been "drunk" three times in my life. I hated the feeling! I don't get drunk any more, and rarely have more than my 1 or 2 a day!

I drink the red wines because I like them. I had a heart surgeon, friend, get me started, after he read enough studies to convince him of its 'therapeutic' value. I drink the margarita's because Jose Cuervo makes some good stuff!
107 posted on 12/05/2003 11:06:57 AM PST by pageonetoo (Rush didn't know??? But now, we all know! He probably broke the law! {Unless you're in de Nile!})
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To: Dead Corpse
"I'm supporting Rush you mental midget."

You have a strange way of showing it.

Why did you ask if he should be "fried"? Why did you mock our (Pro-WOD) support?

There is a huge difference between being arrested/charged/convicted and what's printed in the National Enquirer. Yet you expect the "Drug Warriors" to treat them equally, and when they don't, you call us hypocrites?

You are indeed a strange one.

108 posted on 12/05/2003 11:09:32 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
Utilizing Drug Warrior logic, Rush is as good as convicted. After all, he admitted being an addict, was in treatment, and broke the law.

Next time such logic is used on a Drug War thread, I'll be sure to ping you so you can re-iterate your position.

109 posted on 12/05/2003 12:40:55 PM PST by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Dead Corpse
He broke what law?
110 posted on 12/06/2003 6:24:20 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
Procurring a controled substance outside of government approved channels. It's a felony, in case you missed it from all those Drug War threads.

I don't approve of "government approved channels" and feel that Rush should have been able to get his pain killers over-the-counter.

Come on Bobby, it isn't like you don't know what I'm talking about. You've polluted more than your fair share of the WoD threads.

111 posted on 12/06/2003 7:06:19 AM PST by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Dead Corpse
"I don't approve of "government approved channels" and feel that Rush should have been able to get his pain killers over-the-counter.

If that's the case, then one wonders why you don't STFU about his supposed breaking the law.

But you go on and on, looking for hypocrisy in the pro-WOD ranks when there's none to be found. Look at your post -- you're the hypocrite!

Who says Rush was "procurring a controled substance outside of government approved channels". The National Enquirer? C'mon. You're wasting my time. Seriously.

Next time say, "The National Enquirer says Rush broke the law". Then I'll know to ignore it. Come back when you have something.

112 posted on 12/06/2003 7:31:40 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
But you go on and on, looking for hypocrisy in the pro-WOD ranks when there's none to be found. Look at your post -- you're the hypocrite!

Hypocrisy? Plenty to find in the pro-drug war ranks. None here though despite your attampet at humor.

Who says Rush was "procurring a controled substance outside of government approved channels". The National Enquirer? C'mon. You're wasting my time. Seriously.

You don't listen to Rush at all do you? He admitted he was getting his drugs through other than licit means. Also, the cops are currently investigating him for exactly those allegations.

Next time say, "The National Enquirer says Rush broke the law". Then I'll know to ignore it. Come back when you have something.

Fair article. I don't have Rush 24/7 access or I'd find the speech from the Man himself.

113 posted on 12/06/2003 1:45:15 PM PST by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Dead Corpse
I went to your CNN link. Thanks again for wasting my time. There is nothing there about Rush admitting to breaking the law.

Come back when you have something.

114 posted on 12/06/2003 2:39:52 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
If Rush deserves prosecution, Clinton deserves what all traitors get. Hands tied behind his head, a blindfold, and well pock-marked wall.
115 posted on 12/06/2003 2:58:36 PM PST by Doc Savage
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