Posted on 12/04/2003 9:51:01 AM PST by longtermmemmory
more to follow
I don't recall that I ever said; "He is guilty." I may have said; "I think he did it."
Most of my postings had to do with what the Peterson house is like, what CA law is on inheritance, what Scott looks like, what Ava Frey looks like, etc.
Your statement: "why was he buying them on the blackmarket?"was a statement of fact, and I just addressed that it had not been established yet that he actually bought them on the blackmarket.
I don't know anything about Rush's doctors, but speaking in general terms, this is not a fact at all. There are thousands upon thousands upon thousands of doctors out there that absolutely will refuse to prescribe medically necessary medications to their patients if those drugs have even the slightest chance of being abused. Many do it because they are terrified of ending up being audited by the DEA; many do it simply because they're backwards fools that believe crap like "Pain is part of life, so buck up and shut up." (Thankfully, many of the latter are so old they're starting to retire.)
The situation got so bad a few years ago - with terminal cancer patients spending their final days in unimaginable agony because their "physicians" refused to give them ANYTHING for the pain - that the government was forced to issue new regulations. Hospital doctors are now forced to ask each and every incoming patient their pain level, and prescribe enough medication to alleviate that pain, no matter what their own personal biases are on the matter. If they don't, the hospital can, in theory, lose its accreditation and be shut down. Of course, this doesn't help outpatients one bit, but it's a start.
In any case, it is easily possible that Rush was forced to go to four different doctors for no other reason than that the first three are either afraid of becoming WoD casualties or else are simply self-righteous pseudo-know-it-all scum. If so, that's not "doctor shopping"; it's avoiding quacks.
They are if you are the sworn enemy of liberals, the major media outlets & Florida authorities. Witch hunt is probably a mild description. They're gonna frame him, mark my words.
All the whining about unfair tells me he is unable to accept the fact that he broke the law and there are consequences.
Not when the State has an overwhelming interest in protecting Rush from himself, just like the other 1,500,000 people in jail for "narcotics." /jackbootwelfarequeen
I know of two people at the moment with back problems who have gone to pain management specialists and are receiving oxycontin. They don't take huge quantities, and it's helping.
Investigators Raid Rush Limbaugh's Doctor
LAST UPDATE: 12/4/2003 5:29:56 PM
Posted By: Andrea Rigsby
WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. (AP) -- Investigators raided the offices of Rush Limbaugh's doctor Thursday, saying in search warrants that the conservative radio commentator engaged in illegal drug use and "doctor shopping" for prescription painkillers.
The warrants show investigators were looking for records including prescription disbursements, appointment schedules, receipts and a medical questionnaire.
"Mr. Limbaugh's actions violate the letter, and spirit" of the law that relates to "doctor shopping," stated one of warrants, signed by Asim Brown, a law enforcement agent assigned to the state attorney's office anti-money laundering task force. Doctor shopping refers to looking for a doctor willing to prescribe drugs illegally.
Limbaugh denied any wrongdoing to listeners on his radio show earlier Thursday and accused prosecutors in Palm Beach County of going on a "fishing expedition."
Of course this thread would be here.
There was a news break about the prosecutors having a warrent to sieze Rush's medical records.
Freepers like to discuss and talk about everything. From cheese, showers, series, Jerry Rivers and Rush Limbaugh.
Authorities learned two years ago during an investigation of U.S. Trust bank in New York that Limbaugh withdrew cash 30 to 40 times from his account at amounts just under the $10,000 bank reporting requirement, ABC News reported last month. A bank employee was reported to have delivered some cash to Limbaugh.Following the report, Limbaugh told listeners it was misleading and said that he had the bank bring cash to him at his New York office ``maybe four times, if that many.'' Otherwise, he said he obtained cash from a bank in Florida, where he was living.
You have to remember that unlike most other prescription medications, pain pills act differently on people suffering from actual pain than they do on people suffering no pain that are simply taking them to get high. Someone with severe, continual physical pain can take enough Oxycontin to KILL an average person, and not even feel the least bit lightheaded, much less stoned; he/she will simply have their pain alleviated. Not only that, but they also won't get addicted; if for some reason their pain simply stops one day and they stop their megadose of Oxy cold turkey, they'll be just fune.
By comparison, someone in no pain at all can have quite a fun ride on just one or two low-dose Oxycontins, especially if they break the tablets up first and destroy the time-release capsules so that they get the full hit all at once. (I'm just using Oxy as an example; the same is generally true for all narcotic/addictive pain medications.)
The problem is that there is a vast middle ground between those two extremes. If you have pain - even a LOT of pain - but still end up being prescribed more of the given medication than is actually needed to stop the pain impulses in your own body, then you're going to end up getting the pain relief AND the high. Nowhere near as much of a high as if you had no pain at all, of course, but you'll still feel it ... and start developing the addiction. (Rush admits this is what happened to him: It's not that he didn't need Oxy, but he got too much of it, and he liked it.) And, of course, it's kind of hard to perfectly nail the EXACT amount of medication a patient will need without going overboard, especially when going overboard a bit is something the patient is going to end up enjoying just fine nine times out of ten. It's especially hard for a patient like Rush, whose pain is chronic but variable depending on his situation. (The pain in his back will be different and last a different amount of time if he's going to be traveling in an airplane all weekend, say, than if he just stays at home and plays golf.)
So alnick is right: It is a calculated risk. The patient also takes a calculated risk in such cases, in that he/she may be unlucky enough to get a doctor perfectly willing to prescribe the necessary medication in the first place, but who will cut the patient off more or less arbitrarily in order to cover the his own ass if he thinks the DEA's about to come sniffing around looking for their quota of "pill-happy doctors". Is this what happened to Rush? Who knows...
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