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To: Tymesup
Thanks for the ping...

Foster's demise looks like the B team pulled the trigger and/or that it wasn't planned. Look at the pile of inconsistencies that an A team wouldn't leave around.

The subsequent actions - getting past the videotape, intimidating the key players, spinning the media - look like the A team took over later on.

Other plausible theories/thoughts:

• It was suggested that H!llary and Vince had a 'getaway' spot, an apartment, somewhere in DC (or, perhaps the WH had a place for offsite meetings or trysts - not hard to believe). This theory supposes that Foster killed himself there and the B team did a sloppy cleanup job

• There were inconsisitencies in H!llary's story, IIRC on the night of Foster's death. She was in Little Rock (?) and had a series of phone calls with the WH, which skewed her 'deniablity timeline'. The thinking on this goes that 1.) she was checking up on the 'hit' or 2.) was informed of his death and a story/coverup was crafted

• The other salient theory was that Foster was about to crack from the pressure. The Wall Street Journal had printed one of its exposes of the Clinton Circle (Who is Vince Foster?) and the spotlight caused him to come unglued. Because he was deeply involved in both Clinton personal and public misdeeds - the keeper of the keys, if you will - his defection or breakdown would have doomed the political aspirations of the queen. Considering that people get killed every day over much less, it seems at least possible, barring evidence to the contrary, that this would be reason enough to bring it all out in the open.

While it may seem so to you and me, and as we are taught as supple school children to believe that the SCOTUS is immune to the vagaries of politics (the scorching in the 2000 election notwithstanding), I'm upon reflection persuaded to believe that the photos will not see the light of day, and we're more the poorer for it...

97 posted on 12/05/2003 5:29:06 AM PST by IncPen ( The liberal's reward is self-disgust.)
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To: IncPen
"This theory supposes that Foster killed himself there and the B team did a sloppy cleanup job"

Why would they have done a sloppy job? If Mrs. Clinton found the body, she would have called the A team. If a hypothetical cleaning lady found the body, she would have called Mrs. Clinton, who calls the A team. Who else gets into the getaway spot?

"2.) was informed of his death and a story/coverup was crafted"

The A team would have done the hit and a coverup would have been planned from the start.

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Suppose he was getting ready to crack. Either Mr. or Mrs. Clinton would have motive to have him whacked. Arkancides seem to come in different flavors and abilities. Taking down Ron Brown's plane (and finishing him off later) would have taken a lot of ability.

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Disappointing comment from Scalia. Agreed it doesn't look promising that the pictures will turn up. I wonder what they would be worth on the open market.
128 posted on 12/05/2003 8:52:46 PM PST by Tymesup
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To: IncPen
There is a belief that the Wall Street Journal story on Vince...concerned his money couriering for Bill. Vince had been taking cash out of the country and depositing it into Swiss bank accounts...helping to hide whatever Bill raked in from payoffs. Apparently in the months prior to the suicide...Vince got caught on one of these delivery epiosdes by German authorities...similiarly to the Don Johnson episode that occurred last year...trying to enter Swiss territory with a huge amount of cash or checks on the person. They documented the episode and allowed him to proceed...but it was public record...just like Don Johnson...and Vince really had a stress problem after being caught and worrying about who would figure this out. Put yourself in these shoes...you have been couriering money out of the country for 10 years for Bubba...and putting it into a secret account to avoid taxes and legal questions...and the amount is likely more than $10 million. Bill and Hillery start to look very suspicious in the eyes of the public...and for Vince...he simply could not handle that pressure. I think this alone led to hours and hours of worry...to the point where he could not function...and thus caused the suicide. Hillery likely knew that he was becoming unglued and immedately fell into a 'protect your butt' situation after the episode. The worry by everyone...was the question about the Wall Street Journal continuing the story. My guess is that Bill talked personally with the editors and ensured they were on the inside track of dozens of other stories in the future...and thus never brought up the Vince money story ever again.

It would be interesting to look at the 'breaking' stories of the Wall Street Journal for the remaining period after the Vince suicide and see if they had aboslute insider knowledge of key events.
135 posted on 12/05/2003 10:32:32 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: IncPen
Wasn't there also alot of talk at the time about all the trips that Vince Foster took from DC to Switzerland and back- most of them in a virtual "roundtrip"-no time there on the ground to speak- fashion? I seem to remember alot of talk that he was the "Bagman" for Bill and Hill's money grabs going into Swiss accounts.
Like everyone says- Follow the money......
149 posted on 12/06/2003 9:53:35 AM PST by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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