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Vince Foster: What the Media Won’t Tell You
NewsMax.com ^ | 12/04/03

Posted on 12/04/2003 4:33:52 AM PST by kattracks

Major media outlets reported Wednesday on the Supreme Court hearing of California lawyer Allan Favish's case that government photographs of Vincent Foster’s death scene be released for public viewing. The media report that no fewer than five investigations have found that Foster committed suicide because he was depressed. But despite 10 years of denial by the major media, the Foster case has not “closed” – as the Supreme Court hearing Wednesday demonstrated.

The case won’t close because of the failure of authorities to make full disclosure – and to conduct a full investigation into the case, including a complete autopsy.

Vince Foster was not only deputy White House counsel but also the personal attorney to Bill and Hillary Clinton.

On the night of Foster’s death, top Clinton aides made a frantic effort to enter and remove documents from his West Wing office. In the days that followed, federal investigators were stymied in their investigation of Foster’s office and strange death.

Since Foster’s July 1993 death, the facts of his death have been obfuscated by friends of Bill and Hillary in the major media, but here’s the undeniable truth:

There weren’t “five” investigations into Foster’s death, as the media report. The Park Police, best known for their meter and horse patrols around Washington, were put in charge of the initial death inquiry of the most important federal official to die suspiciously since President Kennedy. The Park Police, contradicting standard procedure, declared the death a suicide before launching their inquiry.

The FBI never officially investigated the case but simply signed off on the Park Police “probe.” The bureau had little choice. The day before Foster’s death, Bill Clinton hurriedly fired the director of the FBI, William Sessions. Sessions later charged that Clinton had “politicized” the bureau.

Later, Robert Fiske, selected by Clinton’s counsel Bernie Nussbaum and Janet Reno, quickly confirmed the Park Police probe as a suicide.

But when Ken Starr entered the investigation, he reopened the case. His chief prosecutor in the case, Miquel Rodriguez, later quit the Starr investigation, claiming that Starr’s staff was engaging in a cover-up of Foster’s death.

Rodriguez, a Harvard-educated federal prosecutor, argued that one of the Polaroid photos taken of Foster at the crime scene indicated an additional wound on Foster’s neck – never noted on the autopsy report. Favish’s suit before the Supreme Court is seeking to release this photo, among others.

No fewer than three of the paramedics on the scene indicated in reports or testimony that the crime scene was consistent with a murder scene, not a suicide.

A careful FBI microscopic investigation of Foster’s shoes found not a trace of soil or grass stains on them, though he supposedly walked several hundred yards through wooded Fort Marcy Park to where his body was found. [Years later, Starr’s investigation found plenty of soil and grass stains. Rodriguez charged that the shoes were tampered with to produce such “evidence.”]

Foster was found with little blood around his body – and despite claims that he fired the gun into his mouth, practically no blood was found on the front of his shirt.

Foster was found with a 1913 revolver no one in his family could claim, with two serial numbers, made from the parts of three or more guns. None of Foster’s fingerprints were found on the gun.

The bullet that supposedly killed Foster was never found, despite intensive searches.

Despite claims to the contrary, no one who knew Foster, including Hillary, Web Hubbell and his own wife, saw signs of depression.

A so-called suicide note was found in an office briefcase that had been searched and found to be empty after Foster’s death. The note was torn into 27 pieces. Yet an FBI examination found no trace of Foster’s fingerprints on the note and a top Oxford handwriting expert found the note to be an “obvious” forgery.

Despite the enormity of the case, Foster’s autopsy lasted an astounding 45 minutes. The coroner in the case had previously been overruled in other cases he declared “suicides” that were later found to be murders.

All of the X-rays taken during the autopsy are missing.

Complete crime scene photos don’t exist. The Park Police said all the photos were “accidentally” overexposed. A series of close-up Polaroids, which Favish is suing for, remain. This is just a brief summary of the dozens of inconsistencies in the case. Two New York homicide investigators who looked into the case concluded that Foster’s body had been moved to the crime scene and that murder could not be ruled out.

Despite overwhelming evidence of a cover-up, the media won’t question the official ruling.

Ken Starr, who could find no criminal wrongdoing on the part of the Clintons during his “intensive” probe, confirmed a ruling of suicide. Starr even hired O.J. Simpson’s defense expert to prove his case.

If ever there were a case for public disclosure of government records and photos, it’s the Vince Foster case. The high court should decide in Allan Favish’s favor.



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; News/Current Events
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To: norton
Swear to God guys: NO administration is going to blow the whistle on any other administration for its little white lies or foreign coups.

Truer words were never spoken, and that's all you need to know.

81 posted on 12/04/2003 10:51:50 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: GunnyB
There was no blood, what kind of suicide was that?

None to be found.

I have yet to hear a reasonable explanation of this.
82 posted on 12/04/2003 10:54:03 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: TigersEye
As I recall, the WH videotapes of the parking lots do NOT show Foster leaving at any point.

When did he get in his car to drive to the park where his body was found?

Inquiring minds would like to know, but there is no hope of ever knowing the answer here.
83 posted on 12/04/2003 10:56:37 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: Triple; TigersEye
There was a thread here on the serial number trace. The consensus was that it was a dead end.
84 posted on 12/04/2003 11:14:16 PM PST by Tymesup
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To: MHGinTN
"A young stewardess lived throught he initial crash, but died of a severed femoral artery while being flown around in a chopper that arrived on the scene."

I think her last name was Kelly or Kelley. I think a pathologist type named Janoski (?) said the femoral business was from the autopsy. I think this was from an interview with Ruddy.
85 posted on 12/04/2003 11:18:36 PM PST by Tymesup
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To: texasbluebell
And the technician in charge of the tapes departed this mortal coil, too.
86 posted on 12/04/2003 11:22:57 PM PST by Tymesup
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To: IncPen
See post 84
87 posted on 12/04/2003 11:23:37 PM PST by Tymesup
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To: TigersEye
"I'll bet dollars to donuts that Hitlery herself ordered it."

Foster's demise looks like the B team pulled the trigger and/or that it wasn't planned. Look at the pile of inconsistencies that an A team wouldn't leave around.

The subsequent actions - getting past the videotape, intimidating the key players, spinning the media - look like the A team took over later on.
88 posted on 12/04/2003 11:27:52 PM PST by Tymesup
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To: yoe
"I have always suspected Ken Star was thrown the Lewinsky bone, to throw everything else off track..."

Your intuition or suspicion is very good. When I talked to David Schippers, he explained that the Independent Council law was written in such a way the the IC HAD to go to Congress with the FIRST evidence of an impeachable offense. In this case, lying to the grand jury and the Federal judge. At that point, the investigation into the other scandals basically came to a grinding halt. The result - just as you suspected. Quite possibly, Starr's people were getting close to something.

Monica not only serviced clinton, proverbially speaking, she screwed all of America.

89 posted on 12/04/2003 11:48:27 PM PST by Badray (Molon Labe!)
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To: Tymesup
"I think her last name was Kelly or Kelley."

Shelley Kelley, IIRC.

"I think a pathologist type named Janoski (?) said the femoral business was from the autopsy. I think this was from an interview with Ruddy."

Kathleen Janowski was a Naval photographer assigned to the forensics section. When the bodies were brought in, she was taking the photos and she is the one that found what appeared to be a gunshot wound to RB's head. She, along with all of the rest of the crew that she worked with, had their lives ruined by the administration and the military with threats of prosecution for revealing information. I met Kathleen and you won't find a more credible witness. She is also a life long Democrat who voted for clinton.

For some reason that I can't understand, she switched parties. /sarcasm

90 posted on 12/05/2003 12:13:44 AM PST by Badray (Molon Labe!)
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To: kattracks
Geepers creepers, ya don't think the Clintons had anything to do with this do ya?
91 posted on 12/05/2003 12:34:22 AM PST by JamesA (Stand together, stand your ground and don't back down. Its ours to lose!)
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To: kattracks
Ron Brown had a bullet hole in the back side of his head. The plane crashed. the Brown family wanted to retrieve the body. Bill Clinton ignored the family and the law and had him cremated. Ron was supposed to testify the very next day against the XXclintonsXX Those x 's are for dead people.
92 posted on 12/05/2003 12:43:55 AM PST by mirkwood (If we stop voting, will they go away?)
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To: Badray
Your tax dollars at work.
93 posted on 12/05/2003 12:49:43 AM PST by mirkwood (If we stop voting, will they go away?)
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To: kattracks
Oh goody! My favorite murder mystery is back on FR again. Go Allan Go!
94 posted on 12/05/2003 4:27:00 AM PST by Ditter
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To: mirkwood
"Your tax dollars at work."

Not mine. I have a special arrangement where my tax dollars only get spent on what I want. ;-)

95 posted on 12/05/2003 4:45:57 AM PST by Badray (Molon Labe!)
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To: Shooter 2.5
While your comments have been interesting, the only thing that seems required to me here would be complicity by the FBI in the coverup.

Pictures have been posted on this thread of the gun he had in his hand when the body was found - it was black. Is that -not- a picture of Vince Foster's dead hand holding a black gun at the scene of his death? I have no idea if it is or not, but it was entered into this thread as if it were. It sure looks like it really was a black gun to me. I think we'd need to discredit those pictures to continue with the "it was silver" argument.

One doesn't have to believe that Mrs. Foster actively complied in the coverup. The only thing necessary to believe is that they purposefully described the gun to her incorrectly as "silver", and she drew her conclusion from that false description.

Qwinn
96 posted on 12/05/2003 5:06:11 AM PST by Qwinn
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To: Tymesup
Thanks for the ping...

Foster's demise looks like the B team pulled the trigger and/or that it wasn't planned. Look at the pile of inconsistencies that an A team wouldn't leave around.

The subsequent actions - getting past the videotape, intimidating the key players, spinning the media - look like the A team took over later on.

Other plausible theories/thoughts:

• It was suggested that H!llary and Vince had a 'getaway' spot, an apartment, somewhere in DC (or, perhaps the WH had a place for offsite meetings or trysts - not hard to believe). This theory supposes that Foster killed himself there and the B team did a sloppy cleanup job

• There were inconsisitencies in H!llary's story, IIRC on the night of Foster's death. She was in Little Rock (?) and had a series of phone calls with the WH, which skewed her 'deniablity timeline'. The thinking on this goes that 1.) she was checking up on the 'hit' or 2.) was informed of his death and a story/coverup was crafted

• The other salient theory was that Foster was about to crack from the pressure. The Wall Street Journal had printed one of its exposes of the Clinton Circle (Who is Vince Foster?) and the spotlight caused him to come unglued. Because he was deeply involved in both Clinton personal and public misdeeds - the keeper of the keys, if you will - his defection or breakdown would have doomed the political aspirations of the queen. Considering that people get killed every day over much less, it seems at least possible, barring evidence to the contrary, that this would be reason enough to bring it all out in the open.

While it may seem so to you and me, and as we are taught as supple school children to believe that the SCOTUS is immune to the vagaries of politics (the scorching in the 2000 election notwithstanding), I'm upon reflection persuaded to believe that the photos will not see the light of day, and we're more the poorer for it...

97 posted on 12/05/2003 5:29:06 AM PST by IncPen ( The liberal's reward is self-disgust.)
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To: Qwinn
The FBI didn't volunteer any information as to what type of gun was involved when they asked her what guns he owned. She replied about the silver gun.

The photograph they showed her was the Fort Marcy gun. She replied that it looked like the gun that was kept on the Father's bed stand.

From what I can tell of that website, had Mrs. Foster replied that Vince owned an Allen Sidelock Rimfire Revolver, the website would have claimed the FBI would have shown her a picture of that one regardless of what was photographed in his hand at Fort Marcy.
98 posted on 12/05/2003 5:37:23 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: kattracks
If ever there were a case for public disclosure of government records and photos, it’s the Vince Foster case.

Absolutely!

99 posted on 12/05/2003 5:56:11 AM PST by Phaedrus
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To: mirkwood
Not only that, Jesse and Jackson and Dick Gregory were stirring up trouble for Clinton in January '98 over Brown's death. Gregory was starting a fast.

Then Drudge posted his Monica story, Clinton introduced Jackson to Wall Street, and the Brown story faded away again.

Pinz
100 posted on 12/05/2003 6:22:51 AM PST by pinz-n-needlez
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