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Scientists trace evolution of Indo-European languages to Hittites
guardian.co.uk ^ | Thursday November 27, 2003 | Tim Radford

Posted on 11/30/2003 10:59:07 AM PST by Destro

Scientists trace evolution of Indo-European languages to Hittites

Tim Radford, science editor
Thursday November 27, 2003
The Guardian

At last the answer in black and white, or beltz and zuri if you happen to be Basque, or noir and blanc, if you are French. You owe the words to Hittite-speaking farmers from Anatolia, who invented agriculture and spread their words as they sowed their seed, 9,500 years ago.

Languages, like people, are related. Russell Gray of the University of Auckland, New Zealand, reports in Nature today that he and a colleague decided to treat language as if it was DNA and compared selected words from 87 languages to build an evolutionary tree of the Indo-European languages. This could help solve an old argument: who picked up the original language and began to spread gradually evolving versions of it across Europe and Asia?

For decades the focus has been on a tribe of nomad herders called the Kurgans from central Asia, who domesticated the horse 6,000 years ago and invaded Europe.

Others have argued that the Indo-European family of languages must have spread with barley and lentils - the first agriculturalists in the Fertile Crescent would have exported not just their techniques, but also the words that went with them.

Charles Darwin noted in 1871 that language seemed to have evolved in much the same way as animals and plants had. Dr Gray used the evolutionary approach three years ago to track the spread of languages from Asia eastwards across the Pacific.

This time he chose 2,449 words from 87 languages, including English, Lithuanian, Gujarati, Romany, Walloon, Breton, Hindi and Pennsylvania Dutch and began a series of comparisons to build up a pattern of descent.

The choice of words was critical, he says. "For example, English is a veritable fruit salad of a language, with chunks of vocabulary from the Celts, Romans, Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Vikings, Normans, and slices of Latin, French, Greek, and Italian tossed with some more recent garnishes from Arabic, Persian, Turkish and Hindi. There is even the odd Polynesian borrowing, like tattoo," he said. "Ninety nine per cent of words in the Oxford English Dictionary are in fact borrowings from other languages."

But English has a basic vocabulary of 200 words - star, dog, earth, blood, woman, year and so on - which can be linked to an original shared language.

The answer is that words were on the move long before horses. Dr Gray's language tree ended with its roots in Anatolia in modern Turkey around 7,500BC, when villagers speaking a form of Hittite kindled pahhur, or fire, to boil watar, or water, before setting out on pad, or foot, to spread the good word.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anthropology; indoeuropean; language
Science for Sunday.
1 posted on 11/30/2003 10:59:08 AM PST by Destro
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To: Destro
At last the answer in black and white, or beltz and zuri if you happen to be Basque, or noir and blanc, if you are French.

NO.
Basque is not an Indo-European Language.
It is distantly related to some of the languages of the Caucases and Tibettan.

SO9

2 posted on 11/30/2003 11:04:22 AM PST by Servant of the 9 (Real Texicans; we're grizzled, we're grumpy and we're armed)
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To: Servant of the 9
Figures YOU'D know that...
3 posted on 11/30/2003 11:07:46 AM PST by null and void
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To: Destro
"At last the answer in black and white"

Yeah, until another scientist 'discovers' something else tomorrow.

4 posted on 11/30/2003 11:08:49 AM PST by TheCrusader
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To: Servant of the 9
They have found links between Basque and the Sino-Tibetabn languages?
5 posted on 11/30/2003 11:09:01 AM PST by JNB
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To: Destro
The mafia, another little known invention of the Hittites ?

6 posted on 11/30/2003 11:24:14 AM PST by hosepipe
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To: JNB
They have found links between Basque and the Sino-Tibetabn languages?

The proponents of language 'Supergroups' claim there are, but I understand it's pretty vague.
So are their claims that all languages families belong to one of their 3 supergroups.

So9

7 posted on 11/30/2003 11:28:36 AM PST by Servant of the 9 (Real Texicans; we're grizzled, we're grumpy and we're armed)
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To: JNB
Something I didn't know either, but swervie's a usually reliable source.

I thought Basque was a linguistic orphan, no known relatives. (One might suspect it is the last remnant of Neanderthal...)
8 posted on 11/30/2003 11:30:46 AM PST by null and void
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To: Servant of the 9

The 4 big groups I know of are Indo-European, Sino-Tibetan, Afro-Asiastic/Semetic-Beber and Altaic. How do these groups relate to each other in the supergroups?
9 posted on 11/30/2003 11:31:27 AM PST by JNB
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To: Destro; All
Related posts:

Italian Archaeologist: Anatolia - Home To First Civilization On Earth

Mother of all Indo-European languages was born in Turkey

LINGUISTICS: Early Date for the Birth of Indo-European Languages

10 posted on 11/30/2003 12:02:46 PM PST by concentric circles
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To: JNB
Here's a good primer on language families....

http://www.krysstal.com/langfams.html
11 posted on 11/30/2003 12:48:42 PM PST by Renfield
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To: concentric circles; Servant of the 9
Shows you how sloppy reporters and some scientists can be. Saying that the Indo-European languages were birn in Turkey-when there were no Turks in Anatolia at the time makes mishmash of history. It reads incorrectly that implies Turkey/Turks are a relative people to Indo-Europeans-when they are relative late commers and usurpers.
12 posted on 11/30/2003 1:09:19 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Servant of the 9; null and void
Jak Se Mas?

I live in a Czech community in Texas. The Slavic language has become a familiar sound & I have traveled among the Basque occupied areas of the Western US-they sound remarkably similiar.

"I thought Basque was a linguistic orphan, no known relatives. (One might suspect it is the last remnant of Neanderthal...)" One old recording of a long dead Monsignor sounds pretty Neanderthalian, but still, I wonder if anyone has an original from inside a cave? Those echos!
13 posted on 11/30/2003 1:12:28 PM PST by GatekeeperBookman ("The War does indeed have many facets; http://aztlan.net/ Look at your enemy." Listen to Tancredo)
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To: Destro
Also of note, Finnish, Estonian and Hungarian are not Indo-European languages, and possibly related to Turkish.
14 posted on 11/30/2003 1:32:09 PM PST by JNB
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To: Destro
self-ping
15 posted on 11/30/2003 1:57:46 PM PST by Free Vulcan
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To: Destro
self-ping
16 posted on 11/30/2003 1:59:20 PM PST by Free Vulcan
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To: Destro
Where does Klingon fit in to all of this?
17 posted on 11/30/2003 2:01:59 PM PST by rmmcdaniell
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