Classic Inside Job (JFK baggage handlers smuggled $$ millions in drugs)

1010 WINS, NEW YORK ^ | Nov 25, 2003 3:12 pm | 1010Wins

[Calpernia]

I have bad news for you that I doubt you will comprehend. Drugs is part of the war on terror. I have no desire to debate this matter with you any further. Drugs are wrong and they will be fought.

So you wish to support terrorism? Then go ahead and defend drugs.

Learn more: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=pakistan+opium+war+on+terror

http://english.pravda.ru/world/2001/10/30/19539_.html

[eno_]

You appear to operate a business out of your home. Are you very confident that some pissed-off eBay customer with a hair across his ass won't rat you out to the feds for some imagined crime or other? Are you comfortable with the FBI's new power to search any business without a warrant, and to gag the subject being searched?

Terrorists use prepaid calling cards, ya know.

[eno_]

I think the 12-steppers don't believe in "former" addicts. I don't neccessarily agree, but I have no firsthand knowledge one way or the other.

[Mo1]

In September, federal agents seized a pallet loaded with three boxes of cocaine weighing about 185 kilos and worth about $23 million, officials said.

Wow .. that's a lot of drugs

[Kenny Bunk]

How dare you attack our colorful and quaint (not to mention loyal) allies! The warm and fuzzily wonderful Albanian Muslims would certainly not be involved in anything extra-legal. Having 20 or 30 children per "family" unit must occupy most of their time, anyway.

Why if the Albanians were not nature's perfect noblemen, Bill Clinton, Richard Holbrooke, and Madeleine Albright would have never sent General Clark to help them take Kosovo from those nasty Serbs! Use your logic, man! Interpol must have this all wrong.

A chicken or two. A goat here or there. The odd Mercedes? Maybe. Drugs? No way. The Shiptars are much too busy fighting for the Greater Albania to be involved in anything so sordid.

[Calpernia]

Did you derive pleasure from trying to exploit me? Trying to be grandiose?

You think laws are above you cause in your immoral mind everyone does drugs.

Go ahead and rationalize the drug addiction any way you wish. Drugs are addictive and reckless behavior. They are imported mostly by terrorist. Reality is reality. But you can rationalize it anyway you want and enjoy company as your false self.

[RANGERAIRBORNE]

"I think the 12-steppers don't believe in "former" addicts..."

I believe you are correct, and they insist that every day of the rest of a "dormer" addict's life is going to have to be a tremendous struggle.

I don't know that that is really true for most people. I am a "former smoker", and I have never had to struggle at all to stay away from tobacco- one of the most addicting" drugs known. And I know "former" pot users, alcoholics, even cocaine users who seem to have lost the desire for their drug of choice- generally in early middle age. So I think that one can be a "former addict".

[toothless]

"Drugs are addictive and reckless behavior. They are imported mostly by terrorist."

Prohibition, a jobs program for terrorists.

[xjcsa]

Everyone having access to the planes must go through security every single time.

I don't. As a direct air carrier employee, I have access to the sterile area and aircraft without being screened. Truth is, your idea is neither practical nor entirely possible, and here are some reasons. There are things that are allowed in checked luggage that are not allowed in a sterile area or in the cabin of an aircraft (knives, firearms, etc.), that baggage handlers have easy access to when loading them on aircraft; ground equipment mechanics use tools on baggage tractors, etc., that would never be allowed in a sterile area or on an aircraft (hazmat stuff like oil, gasoline, other flammables); and at the very least someone has to enter the sterile area to open the checkpoint and work it. You have to trust some people, there's no way around it. We go through fingerprint-based criminal history records checks and are subject to random drug testing, but ultimately, the reality is that some people do and always will have unsecured access to airplanes.

[bc2]

There is crime, and there is vice. The reason people feel "above the law" is because deep down, a lot of people, even really bad people, know that "crimes" are actions which initiate force or fraud against people or their property. Addiction is not a criminal behaviour. Commerce is not a criminal behavior.

I have lost friends and family to the evils of drugs. The drug war helped none of them, it only hurts you and me, and the freedoms given to us at birth by God. Higher taxes, more gun control, more powers of government, crooked politicians from the local sherrif to judges, members of congress, the list goes on and on.

The drug war in it's current state has been lost. Drugs our on our streets, in our schools, our military, and even our maximum security prisons. Where people have the desire for intoxication, another will provide them with the method.

The time is long overdue for our nation to look at the harms of drug use, and weigh them against the harms of the current drug prohibition. The policies we have enacted have helped government powers increase at alarming rates, it has helped to enrich and embolden criminals, to enact more gun control which disarms peaceful people in relation to the armed and emboldened criminals. The drug prohibition has weakened our Constitution and Republic by undermining almost all 10 Articles of the Bill of Rights. It has taxed us into submission to fuel what has become a prison-industrial complex. It has clogged our courts and overfilled our prisons, to the point where actual violent criminals are released early, to make room for non violent drug offenders serving mandatory minimum sentances. The billions of dollars in untaxed, underground money weakens our economy when it is laundered back into society.

Meanwhile, we are living proof that you can not legislate the laws of supply and demand into extinction.

It's time to think up and enact a policy which will reduce the desire, and subsequently the demand and supply of dangerous and addictive drugs. We must understand the difference between crime and vice. Addiction is a medical problem, and not a criminal one.

Admitting that we need to change our current drug policies does not mean defeat. Admitting that some drugs should be legal, such as alcohol, tobacco, marijuana and maybe even some opiates, does not mean you are "soft on crime". It means you recognize criminal behaviour, and punish it severely, while treating addiction as the medical problem it is and allowing peaceful people to recreate in their homes as they so desire.

[Calpernia]

You may scroll right back up to post 41.

[doug from upland]

Thanks for the input. We have been talking about the issue for a year and a half -- CLICK.

[bc2]

why don't you understand that the illegality of these drugs artificially increases their price, and the prohibition enables terrorists across the world to make huge profits on the sale of the drugs.

the only thing tougher drug laws will do is to create a lower supply, even higher prices, more violence associated with the drug trade and higher rates of more violent crime here at home while addicts steal to pay for the inflated prices of drugs.

[bc2]

(as a follow-up)

meanwhile, all of this money is going to the terrorist organizations, and the current drug laws have done nothing to reduce the demand for drugs or address the issue of billions of dollars going to fund terrorism.

their "solution" only makes the problem worse.

[Calpernia]

Now you may refer back to post 21

[Calpernia]

And now you may refer back to post 29.

[bc2]

What a silly game you play. Are you without the ability to reason?

Now you may refer to my origional post.

"Admitting that we need to change our current drug policies does not mean defeat."

Since you recognize that the current policies in fact help to enrich terrorists, yet you call for even more of the same policies, I will say "YOU ARE WITH THE TERRORISTS".

A reasonable person can come to no other conclusion.

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

have been talking about the issue for a year and a half...

Yes. Seems to me there has been little focus on the soft underbelly: airport security, arming of pilots, border control, import control, monitoring of the ROP, etc. Of course we are doing all we can to defend Iraq's borders. Guess the FedGov is waiting for something really serious to happen here before the necessary corrective actions are undertaken.

[God is good]

My sentiments EXACTLY!

[God is good]

We eliminated the black market caused by alcohol and now look at the alcohol addiction problems we now have. In the end this is a heart issue. As long as people are fools enough to destroy themselves with this junk, this nation will suffer the consequences. America is not immune from the destruction of sin.