RUSH: I'M NO HYPOCRITE

New York Post ^ | 11/25/03 | JOHN MAINELLI

[kattracks]

November 25, 2003 -- A sneak-attack caller yesterday launched Rush Limbaugh into a defense against charges he was a hypocrite for demanding tough sentences for drug users while he himself was taking black-market pain killers. "It's not hypocritical because my behavior doesn't determine the value of right and wrong - nobody's does," Limbaugh told listeners.

[Sam Cree]

Related discussion here, that Rush supposedly is saying that the Republicans cannot claim to be the party of smaller government.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1028712/posts

[LucyJo]

Of course he has used it recently. Remember when Saddam's torture happy sons assumed room temperature.

You are just bashing to bash. Perhaps you would be more comfortable in some other forum system where democrat party members roam free in a preserve.

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LOL! You must not have read all of my posts. I'm no Rush basher.
Read post #123

[Harris]

I got some internal server error message twice. Didn't even realize message had posted once. I gave up. Will remember that patience is a virtue but you remember I was dealing with a computer where patience is driven to the edge of the cliff.

[Harris]

As an attorney, I am not surprised at your defense of Rush, but your assumptions, of MY state of mind, are inadmissable as any evidence, of truth!

I didn't know you were an attorney but your sentence grammatically reads as if you are. For those of such as you in Rio Linda, I was not necessarily defending Rush but rather attacking your arguments based on assumptions.

You give me the impression that you stereotype attorneys.

First you prove with facts that Rush is a hypocrite and then I will refute your charges. I can kill someone and still advocate that murder is wrong. It doesn't make me a hypocrite; it just makes me wrongdoer. Hypocrisy in such an instance would me saying killing is wrong except when I do it. Rush may have committed a crime and should be dealt with appropriately. He is probably a first time offender and therefore is entitled to some leniency which is an aspect of justice I think even Bill Clinton, er, the lowest scum, is entitled to. Problem with Clinton was he way past his first offense by 1998.

[pageonetoo]

"I didn't know you were an attorney but your sentence grammatically reads as if you are. For those of such as you in Rio Linda, I was not necessarily defending Rush but rather attacking your arguments based on assumptions.

You give me the impression that you stereotype attorneys. "


I didn't make myself clear enough.... SINCE YOU ARE ATTORNEY... and I do stereotype attorneys. I am not an attorney, nor do I play one on tv (I am not sure if it was meant as a compliment, but thanks for recognizing my ability. I can keep up with them (I have presented a multi-million dollar tort claim/Breach of Contract in Federal Court, which is pending, the Defendants were unable to achieve summary judgement! They (you) mostly deserve the stereotype... several attorneys wanted 40% for a slam dunk presentation. I went to the LOC Law Library, and researched my claim, and will save a good many dollars for my children's future, when I am sucessful!!!
I could care less about your refutation, since you have already chosen to ignore facts that have been presented...and used intentionally demeaning allegations in your attempts... I live in WV, not CA.
These failing attempts at hair-splitting are exactly what you are trained to do. Rush's word-smithing is exactly what he does! In your attemp at DEFENDING RUSH, you do not offer a proper definition of hypocrisy, but instead, just proffer your OPINIONs and your suppositions!

[altura]

Sorry, you misunderstood. I knew who made the "clueless comment" ... I just didn't want to address him/her.

I was agreeing with your comment to his comment ... oh, never mind.

Anyway ... sorry about that.

[Stewart_B]

Entry Word: hypocrite

Function: noun

Text:

one who affects virtues, qualities, or attitudes he does not have

Synonyms: dissembler, dissimulator, lip server, pharisee, Tartuffe, whited sepulcher Related Words: pietist; actor, attitudinizer, bluffer, charlatan, faker, four-flusher, fraud, humbug, impostor, masquerader, phony, poser, poseur, pretender, quack, sham

[Harris]

Well you've certainly proven you don't listen to what others are saying. You lump everyone into stereotypes without a need to know them. You assume (and I mean that in the truest meaning of the word, wink wink). No I wasn't recognizing any legal skills which is difficult to do by postings but rather was ridiculing your poor grammar.

BTW how do you know what I am trained to do? You don't even know me. What a great life to be able to just cast out your opinions without any real basis!

If you really could back up your claim then DEFINE hypocrisy. If you don't, then you are just a ranting loon frustrated at being in almost heaven but not quite Virginia who can't back up his criticism of Rush and his fans. You expect facts but all I see is your opinion which you refuse to specifically define.

Lots of luck at trial. Hopefully they will settle so you will get something.

[Harris]

Stewart, thanks for taking time to post definition. I don't think Rush has commented that harshly on other drug addicts. I think the non-listening left has construed what Rush stands for by assumption rather than actually listening to the man.

Rush himself said he avoided the subject to hide the fact of his own addiction. It amazes me how the left (admittedly I am stereotyping for shorthand purposes- guess I'm a hypocrite shoot me now) will encourage sympathy for every criminal type except for a Republican.

I don't think avoiding the subject makes Rush a hypocrite. He obviously has to back down from his entertaining boast of being right 95% of the time. Still he is innocent until proven guilty.

If it is shown he committed a crime, give him the same punishment as others. If this is a first time offense then I imagine treatment and probation are in order.

The real hypocrites are the leftist proponents of treatment for drug users rather than jail who now want Rush to be handcuffed. Kind of like those who attacked Clarence Thomas over at best ill chosen, sexually suggestive words (and the evidence wasn't all that credible) who then turn a blind eye to the raping and pillaging carried out by Clinton. Who criticize W's attacks on Iraq but whole heartedly endorse the "wag the dog" attacks on Iraq, Sudan, and Bosnia by Clinton.

The left (read that as Democrats or Rush haters) simply affects virtues of being against sexual harrassers and for peace when in fact they have no principles but only care about who says what.

[Stewart_B]

Still he is innocent until proven guilty.

That's it in a nutshell.

[MarkL]

Limbaugh returned to the air last week after five weeks of drug detox in Arizona, only to learn that new reports claimed he may have illegally laundered more than $300,000 to pay for his drugs.

Here it is again... The press going on about Rush "laundering" money. Money laundering is a very simple thing... Taking money that was gained illegally, and making it appear to have come from legal sources. How is it that when you take money that is legally obtained and do something illegal with it, that could possibly be money laundering... Unless you (really, "the elite media") are just trying to smear someone.

Mark

[MarkL]

>>>Does that make them hypocrites?<<<

Yes.

No, it makes them grownups.

Mark

[Tall_Texan]

Bump to read when I have some time.

BTW, has he addressed at all the Enquirer story? I've only been able to catch portions of the show. There was one comment about the housekeeper but I don't know if it meant that he had finally told his side of the story.

[Tall_Texan]

I find it hypocritical when someone condemns another as "judgemental". Are they, themselves, not being judgemental when judging somebody as judgemental?

[Tall_Texan]

No one who has successfully committed suicide has been recorded telling others not to do it afterwards. They may be cowards but, thank God they're not hypocrites! < /sarcasm>

[bullseye1911]

No problem, not the first time I've misunderstood.....ask my wife! Regards.

[Central Scrutiniser]

Well, since Rush was too much of a wuss to actually buy the drugs to feed his habit, he cravenly had his hired help do the dirty work for him. As an employer, that is no different than sending a worker into a contaminated area to clean up a plutonium spill. Yes the employee could always say no, but it counts as endangerment and harassment, and I'd throw the book at anyone that would treat an employee that poorly.

But you probably believe everything he says all the time, Rush and all the radio guys are just AM equivalents of professional wrestlers, its all a SHOW, aimed at making money.

[pageonetoo]

"I find it hypocritical when someone condemns another as "judgemental". Are they, themselves, not being judgemental when judging somebody as judgemental?"

I just enjoy watching the meltdowns, that follow any criticism of certain 'icon's of some FReepers.
Rush has made a great contribution to the arena of ideas, something that should certainly be welcomed here. Unfortunately, there are those that equate criticism as hate.
Rush has been ensconced as a 'leader' of the conservative movement. He asked for the position, nay, proclaimed it, without referendum, and it has been accepted by the masses.
To call Rush a hypocrite, on this thread, evidently opens a great opportunity for them (the many idolaters) to refer to me, and others, as being leftist , DUmmies, and worse, because they listen to us condemning, or criticizing a talk show host, that we all listen to...
Rush is a business. He has a product to sell, Rush. In the beginnings of his national career, he was innovative, calculating, and effective, at exposing the left, and all its perversions of truth. He was entertaining, and made a valuable difference in the lives of many people, who had never been exposed to conservative thought.
Rush is a man. He has a business to run, RushLimbaugh.com, et al. He made some mistakes, and it has caused great consternation, among his devoted disciples. They now have the dichotomy of seeing 'feet of clay', on their marble statue. They want to forgive him, while not fully realizing what he did. IMO, he has made a tremendous marketing error.
His apologists seek to turn everyone, unwilling to support Rush without reservation, or criticism, into some type of pariah, or worse. They use invective and demeaning reference toward any 'unbelievers'. To me, that is more similar to the leftists' traits, than anything I, or other 'unbelievers' may say, or do.
I will repeat, I like Rush. I have enjoyed listening and being entertained, by him, since his beginnings on the national scene. But, IMO, he is a hypocrite. To say "we all are hypocrites" is certainly a truism, but we don't have the same exposure, as Rush, nor the same standards to uphold. To try and justify his actions, by saying that he has done good, in the past, and then give him a 'get out of jail free' card, when he commits a MAJOR wrong, is one of the highest forms of hypocricy!

I hope that criticism of Rush isn't continued to be referred to as 'hate". I hope that the ardent apologists will see Rush as a man, with a business to promote. The fact that he uses ideas, as a product, has been good for his business. When his ideas become tarnished, by his personal failings, we are all receiving less than we paid for! When we blindly support him, we all can get stained, as well!

Do I say not to listen to Rush? Of course not. I was tuned in on monday, like so many others, for his return. But, I still listen with the same ears I had before his admissions. And I still don't think any life changes would have been made by him, if he had not got caught!

I do not condemn Rush Limbaugh. I condemn those who would try to silence dissent, by name-calling, etc. I am guilty, at times, of referring to trolls, etc. Sorry, I am a hypocrite!

[pageonetoo]

"Kind of like those who attacked Clarence Thomas "


I know Clarence Thomas, and believe me, you are no Clarence Thomas! Just kidding, I couldn't pass on that memory (VP debate)!

Defendants have already tried to settle, for six figures! I think I can get more! I have a solid footing, and my time in the LOC has been extremely valuable.
You are right, I spout plenty, sometimes just to get a rise! Works pretty good, huh? Seems I am not alone!!!

[joesbucks]

You are absolutely right. Right's and wrong's are constant no matter what Rush does. However, according to the dictionary, he is a hypocrite .......One who plays a part; especially, one who, for the purpose of winning approbation of favor, puts on a fair outside seeming; one who feigns to be other and better than he is; a false pretender to virtue or piety; one who simulates virtue or piety.

Remember if something is right, it will be compelling to those who seek or know virtue to strive for it and not give in to the temptations of wrong. Rush knew it and chose not to go after it. That made him a hypocrite. And that's what he needs honestly needs to explain is how someone who knows virture allowed himself to pursue wrong.