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Time to lay Kennedy conspiracy theories to rest
The Chicago Sun-TImes ^
| November 23, 2003
| Editorial
Posted on 11/23/2003 6:40:47 AM PST by GaryL
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To: RANGERAIRBORNE
JFK was not beloved by a lot of wealthy and powerful people i this country, and there was a very real fear in some quarters that he was losing the Cold War to the Soviet Union through his recklessness and lack of any real grasp of the foreign policy problems. He looked good on TV, he gave great speeches and scripted press conferences, but he was essentially a rich-boy amateur playing with the toy his Daddy bought for him. One of the very least-qualified Presidents of this centuryWell put. He was a great talker, but indecisive in critical situations. Not a good thing at the height of the Cold War with a nut like Kruschev on the other side.
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posted on
11/23/2003 2:34:21 PM PST
by
#3Fan
To: SBprone
Thanks for your comments. I also thought at one time there was mob involvement. "Case Closed" goes in the entire mafia connection quite thoroughly. Mr. Posner convinced me that this was definitely not a mob hit.
If you haven't already done so, I suggest you read this section of the book. It's very compelling.
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posted on
11/23/2003 2:36:05 PM PST
by
GaryL
To: RANGERAIRBORNE
Hmmm- has anyone else noticed that the cries from prominent Democrats to "move on" and stop trying to investigate this assassination have increased very markedly since a new book implicating LBJ in a conspiracy to kill Kennedy appeared?I was watching C-Span yesterday and Bob Schieffer got downright angry at the mention of the book. They're doing everything they can to protect LBJ.
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posted on
11/23/2003 2:36:57 PM PST
by
#3Fan
To: RISU
May I respectfully suggest that you read "Case CLosed"?
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posted on
11/23/2003 2:40:32 PM PST
by
GaryL
To: VeritatisSplendor
3) Given 1) and 2), the burden of proof is on the conspiracy theorists to show who the other people in the conspiracy were. At this, they have failed, and reasonable people need not listen to them until they come up with some positive evidence involving PEOPLE WITH NAMESConvicted killer and LBJ hitman Mac Wallace's fingerprint was found in the sniper's nest.
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posted on
11/23/2003 2:42:38 PM PST
by
#3Fan
To: jwalsh07
Nothing!
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posted on
11/23/2003 2:43:28 PM PST
by
GaryL
To: DustyMoment
Here's the question to ask yourselves - IF the Warren Commission report is factually correct and the truth was ascertained, why were all of the records related the JFK assassination SEALED for a period of 75 years? The fact that they sealed it instead of destroyed it may mean that they knew they would be found out and they want the truth to be known about their motives. There may be explanations as to why they killed Kennedy. Maybe this scenerio isn't probable, but wouldn't it be amazing if that was the case.
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posted on
11/23/2003 2:47:39 PM PST
by
#3Fan
To: #3Fan
OK, this is certainly an improvement. Can you please cite an official source that Wallace's fingerprint was in the School Book Depository, and a basis for your assertion that LBJ had a "hitman"?. On whose say-so are you relying?
To: DaGman
I think you may have misunderstood my position. I agree that Kennedy's head moved backward and to the left. I didn't deny that. The Zapruder film clearly shows him moving backward and to the left. My point is that this motion is evidence of his head reacting to the force of his brain being blown out the front right part of his head.
The grassy knoll was forward and to the right, the opposite of the direction of JFK's head's motion.
If you agree that every action has an equal and opposite reaction, then his head moving backward and to the left may be inconsistent with a shot being fired from the front right.
My view is that the wound on the back of Kennedy's head was an entrance wound, and that the much larger wound on the front right side was an exit wound. I believe that the force of his brain and blood exploding out of front right side caused his head to move backward and to the left. The exit wound would have had a much more profound effect on the ultimate motion of Kennedy's head than the entrance wound would have, because the exit wound was so much larger.
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posted on
11/23/2003 3:07:20 PM PST
by
rickmichaels
(God bless America, land that I love)
To: VeritatisSplendor
OK, this is certainly an improvement. Can you please cite an official source that Wallace's fingerprint was in the School Book Depository, and a basis for your assertion that LBJ had a "hitman"?. On whose say-so are you relying?The fox was in charge of the henhouse so all evidence that pointed to conspiracy was ignored by officialdom. The Mac Wallace print was the only print unidentified until recently. With LBJ's attourney now letting the truth out, Mac Wallace became a suspect. Being that he was a convicted killer, his prints were on file. They were compared and it was a match. It was on the History Channel. You probably refused to watch though, huh?
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posted on
11/23/2003 3:16:06 PM PST
by
#3Fan
To: texasbluebell
I looked at the link and noticed that the HSCA also stated:
1. Oswald fired 3 times. (According to conspiracists that's impossible given the type of rifle in time required).
2. Oswald hit JFK from behind on the 2nd. (I notice nothing mentioned about the Connelly injuries. So did the HSCA believe the "magic bullet"?)
3. The 3rd shot FIRED FROM BEHIND killed JFK. (Impossible according to conspiracists - back and to the left.)
So if there was a 2nd shooter - What, if anything, did he hit?
To: VeritatisSplendor; #3Fan
Can you please cite an official source that Wallace's fingerprint was in the School Book Depository, and a basis for your assertion that LBJ had a "hitman"?. On whose say-so are you relying? Re: the fingerprint:
On the word of the fingerprint expert (whose name was possibly Darby, but don't hold me to that). He was a renowned expert, and identified the print on 34 points--considered to be so high an id as to be irrefutable.
But oddly, the Feebs, when they took the information and evidence from him, after 18 months of silence on the matter, declared that it was not Wallace's print. I wonder why.
To: Sapper26
I have no idea. No one knows, at least no one who is talking.
But the HSCA determination does question the WC findings.
That's all I can say. I just have many unanswered questions, as do the majority of Americans.
To: _Jim
The detectives working that case (JD Tippet's murder) and the Kennedy Assassination (it wasn't a federal crime to shot the presient at that time) have said that they "had enough evidence to convict Lee Harvey Oswald and get the death penalty"I saw the interviews with two eyewitnesses last night (Tippet murder) who claimed they saw the killer. Their descriptions of the man they saw were almost completely opposite. A decent defense lawyer would have had a field day with that crime.
To: ronnieb
Seems to me that the major media, is on a big push to take the steam out of the question of just who killed JFKYeah, I noticed that as well. Today's newsrooms seem to be less, rather than more, skeptical of government these days.
It was interesting to see the videotapes of Oswald being led away as reporters asked him questions, right up close. Several times Oswald said, "I didn't shoot anybody." When one reporter asked him if he was in the depository building at the time of the assassination he replied, "Naturally, since I work there."
I agree with you that the killing of Oswald is the most disturbing piece of the whole puzzle.
To: aristeides
Your#46.......LOL......
What would James Jesus Conincidence say,.....?
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posted on
11/23/2003 3:57:58 PM PST
by
maestro
To: Sapper26; texasbluebell
texasbluebell, thanks for the link.
Sapper: I looked at the link and noticed that the HSCA also stated:
1. Oswald fired 3 times. (According to conspiracists that's impossible given the type of rifle in time required).
You misstated. Not impossible to fire, - impossible as per the Reports single bullet theory.
2. Oswald hit JFK from behind on the 2nd. (I notice nothing mentioned about the Connelly injuries. So did the HSCA believe the "magic bullet"?)
Good question..
3. The 3rd shot FIRED FROM BEHIND killed JFK. (Impossible according to conspiracists - back and to the left.)
Again, not impossible, but back/left was improbable with a FMJ type bullet. Expansive type bullets are very liable to cause such reactions.
So if there was a 2nd shooter - What, if anything, did he hit?
The only thing we are 'sure' of, according to the Report itself, is that the so-called pristine FMJ bullet hit Connelly. All else is theory. Badly written and reasoned Commission theory. Read the Report.
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posted on
11/23/2003 4:03:21 PM PST
by
tpaine
(I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but FRs flying monkey squad brings out the Rickenbacker in me.)
To: texasbluebell
I recall reading that Howard Hunt was in Dallas at the time of the Kennedy assassination and that he was as mysterious a fellow as ever walked the corridors of power - - the original "cigarette-smoking man", if you will. Do you remember any specific details about Hunt's possible involvement?
Regards,
LH
To: GaryL
Shot from the rear???
To: Lancey Howard
I don't know, was Hunt at that big dinner at the oil baron's house the night before the shooting? The one Hoover and Nixon and LBJ all attended?
I can't remember if his name was mentioned for that. Maybe someone remembers.
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