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Radio KFWB 980 in LA broadcasting "Muslim Call to Prayer" and in need of some SERIOUS FReeping
Self ^ | 11/22/2003 | Self

Posted on 11/22/2003 6:50:02 PM PST by EUPHORIC

I had just left Lenscrafters in San Bernardino and was enjoying my new bifocals and a nice cold Coke when something happened that made me spew my coke all over my dashboard. KFWB broadcast a MUSLIM CALL TO PRAYER complete with the Imam wailing away and some local Muslim cleric explaining thet it was a call to prayer for Muslims. Guy then goes into the standard spiel about how Islam is the "most tolerant of religions" and respects other religions and Jesus and we all worship the same God etc etc. And we all know what a crock of lies that is.

This happened just before 5:00 pm today and it sounded like they've been doing it all through Ramadan.

To each his own but I went to their contact page (link below and above) and shotgunned everyone on it with my feelings about them hawking Islam (Ramadan or no) and enlightened them with the TRUTH about Islam and I encourage everyone who feels the same to do the same. Just click below and fire away!

http://www.kfwb.com/inside_contact.asp


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To: Cultural Jihad; EUPHORIC
Wait until he finds out I'm an American Indian. That will be REALLY interesting. Ya think he hates me now? We ain't seen nothing yet.
641 posted on 11/23/2003 11:15:09 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (All I want is a warm bed, a kind word and unlimited power.)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Thanks! Since you were so nice to give me a courtesy ping I'm going to allow you to go shopping today and you won't have to wear a Burqa. Ain't I swell? ;0)
642 posted on 11/23/2003 11:16:23 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (All I want is a warm bed, a kind word and unlimited power.)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Well, you know, I appreciate that. I particularly appreciate your not shooting me in the head for watching TV.
643 posted on 11/23/2003 11:20:09 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (I don't suffer from stress. I'm a carrier.)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Wait until he finds out I'm an American Indian. That will be REALLY interesting. Ya think he hates me now? We ain't seen nothing yet.

I probably have more AI blood in me then you do. And I'll bet you change races faster then then I can change my socks.

No "hate" your sides magic power word has no bearing here. Just speaking the facts.

I know you guys have a problem with TRUTH. Sorry if it "offends" you. But your lies offend me so I guess we are even. :)

/me taps his toes waiting for the mice in Chads pocket to scurry about supporting his fantasies again.

644 posted on 11/23/2003 11:28:07 PM PST by EUPHORIC (Right? Left? Read Ecclesiastes 10:2 for a definition. The Bible knows all about it!)
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To: EUPHORIC
Yawn. When you can't even turn a radio dial from a station that offends you, I'd say you have bigger problems than anyone here.

Grow up.
645 posted on 11/23/2003 11:33:00 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (All I want is a warm bed, a kind word and unlimited power.)
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To: EUPHORIC; Chad Fairbanks
Hehehehe. "Chad" must be the local ACLU control. I just LOVE the way these left wing nuts work and they way they always use ID's designed to inject "inclusion" with the groups they are working.

Can you say ... paranoid??

Hey Chad .. When did you become a lawyer .. or should I ask .. get a job?

I didn't think left wing nuts worked?

646 posted on 11/23/2003 11:43:14 PM PST by Mo1
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To: Mo1
Well, you know, just because he's paranoid doesn't mean I aon't out to get him ;0)
647 posted on 11/23/2003 11:44:21 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (All I want is a warm bed, a kind word and unlimited power.)
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To: EUPHORIC; Chad Fairbanks
I probably have more AI blood in me then you do.

Sure you do, Archie.

648 posted on 11/23/2003 11:45:55 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (I don't suffer from stress. I'm a carrier.)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
And you, my FRiend, are a coward. When you talk about me, have the hair to actually ping me so I can see what you have to say about me, coward.

Why should I waste my time? I take the time to look for comments regarding me and there is no reason for me to waste my time doing your work for you. Perhaps in China or Cuba or N. Korea you may get that privelage but it is not one I will respect. Do your own work like everyone else.

Your bigotry here has been clear as day for everyone to see, and you hide behind the "You're a socialist ACLU control" crap to mask your hatred of anyone who is not like you.

"Bigotry" is a GOOD thing when it is directed at Socialist liars and distorters of truth like YOU. Am I a "bigot" I should hope so when it comes to identifying infiltrators who pass themselves off as "conservatives" and attack EVERYTHING that is good about Conservatism as you do.

I am a conservative - a constitutionalist. You are not. End of story.

Perhaps you are "conservative" but only if your values are conserving the ways of Pol Pot and Castro. If you are a Conservative by the same measure Hitler was a pacifist. And your claim to be a "constitutionalist" is false as you are one who distorts the Constitution and its original spirit with your own invented contemporary twists and spins that suit your agenda.

And that is the true "end of story". :)

649 posted on 11/23/2003 11:48:37 PM PST by EUPHORIC (Right? Left? Read Ecclesiastes 10:2 for a definition. The Bible knows all about it!)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
So are you a sleeper or just asleep?? .. and who is ID?

I haven't read this whole thread yet ... but it sure is interesting .. *L*
650 posted on 11/23/2003 11:49:39 PM PST by Mo1
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To: EUPHORIC
Meet me FACE TO FACE and see who has the AI Eyes.

You think it can be determined who is has more American Indian blood based on appearance?

[Why does that not surprise me?]

652 posted on 11/23/2003 11:59:33 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (I don't suffer from stress. I'm a carrier.)
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To: missyme
Again no dis-respect intended but you are definetly one american who is in the minority regarding this topic.

I'd be stunned speechless if a scientific poll found that the majority of Americans thought Muslims should not be allowed to practice freely. Not that it matters, the constitution guarantees them the right to do so.

653 posted on 11/24/2003 1:16:43 AM PST by MattAMiller
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To: EUPHORIC; mhking
thank for thread E & for ping Mike..

I did email the radio station..
654 posted on 11/24/2003 2:42:51 AM PST by DollyCali (Authenticity: To have arrived.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Sure, "In the year of our Lord."

Considering the phrase "year of our Lord" was rather ubiquitous in writing at the time, I'd say it doesn't mean much in the teological sense. But then again, as others have pointed out, the word "Lord" is a generic term referring to God. And since most religious scholars admit the Judeo-Christian "God" and the "Allah" of Islam are the same thing, it is a distinction without a difference.

But your original statement is that "the Constitution does acknowledge Christianity as a foundation". Sorry, but there is NO WAY that using the term "year of our Lord" "acknowledge(s) Christianity as a foundation". If that was an important principle, they MUST have said more about it in the Constitution. So where is it?

655 posted on 11/24/2003 5:49:49 AM PST by Two_Sheds
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To: duvausa
I want to see verification.

There were no Muslims celebrating in the streets anywhere in the US on 9/11.

No way that there was a complete media blackout on this.

And until someone can offer up something other than "he said" there is no proof.

If you believe that ALL U.S. media was blacked out, that while the film of Palestinians dancing in the streets was shown, Muslims dancing in the streets in the US has been somehow suppressed by someone, you are dreaming.

And I'll challenge Medved himself to verify his allegations.
656 posted on 11/24/2003 5:59:09 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: duvausa
"It was Somalis in Seattle."

No, they were Muslims in Detroit.

No, it was Muslims in New Jersey.

Get a grip

657 posted on 11/24/2003 6:01:25 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: duvausa
  The Hole in the Middle
 

Claim:   Employees at a Dunkin' Donut outlet desecrated an American flag, and some people of Arab extraction were observed celebrating the terrorist attack on America.

Status:   False.

Example:   [Collected on the Internet, 2001]


Attention all Americans: Boycott Dunkin Donuts!!

In Cedar Grove, NJ, a customer saw the owner of a Dunkin Donuts store burn the U.S. flag. In another Dunkin Donuts store in Little Falls, a customer saw a U.S. flag on the floor with Arabic writing all over it. In Wayne, NJ the employees of Arabic background were cheering behind the counter when the heard about the attacks. A customer throw his coffee at them and phoned the police.

We are starting a nationwide boycott of all Dunkin Donuts. Please make sure this gets passed on to all fellow Americans during this time of tragedy. We Americans need to stick together and make these horrible people understand what country they are living in and how good they used to have it when we supported them. Numerous fastfood companies are at Ground Zero, giving away free food to volunteers. Where is Dunkin Donuts in all of this? Boycott Dunkin Donuts! Pass it on.

Origins:   The story is wholly fallacious and is but one of many similar snippets of gossip currently aired about any number of commercial entitties, both large and small.

Dunkin' Donuts immediately looked into the rumor and determined through interviews with employees on duty that day that nothing of this sort had taken place. (Additional information is available from them by sending e-mail to response@adrus.com.) Additionally, police examined video of the store's operations that day and found nothing to the claims made in the slander now attached to the Cedar Grove store:

Threats against Dunkin' Donuts employees who were rumored to have celebrated Tuesday's attacks led to a decision to close the Cedar Grove store temporarily, a store spokesman said. Police later said a store video proved there was no truth to the rumor, which they said provoked threats against the employees — one Asian Indian and two Americans. (1)

The rumors about employees of Arab extraction celebrating upon receiving news of the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon have been attached to numerous businesses beside Dunkin' Donuts. What needs be kept in mind is that this rumor is not specific to any one company, therefore any thoughts of the "Where there's smoke, there's fire" variety should immediately be dismissed. It's a rumor and a baseless one, and whom it gets aimed at is never dependent on the named party's having done anything to bring it upon itself:

My mom's friend was in the National Liquidator store in the Forest Avenue Plaza when the crashes happened.

The workers, owners, etc. were all cheering and laughing.

Can you imagine, only a few blocks from us, these sick bastards were cheering for this horrendous act?

They are taking our money by providing cheap everyday things to us and cheering when our family & friends are killed!!

Please forward this to your friends & family to let them know what kind of demented people live in our neighborhoods!!

And do not for any reason go into their stores.

If you know of any other stores we should not be going into due to things like this or unsafe situations, please let us know.

Same wolf, just cloaked in a different sheepskin.

Large chains aren't the only commercial entities to have been tarred with this undeserved brush — numerous small firms have had versions of the same slander applied to them. According to breathless rumor spread willy-nilly, Arabs have been caught in the act of celebrating the strike against the twin towers and the Pentagon in bagel shops, restaurants, stores, and coffee houses — anywhere customers could conceivably have witnessed such outpourings. False rumors like these run on very fast legs indeed, and spontaneous boycotts have sprung up in their wake. These boycotts do irreparable harm to the many innocent businesses swept up by this wave of lies.

Combatting a rumor is rarely an easy task. The very nature of gossip almost guarantees that a tale's originator will not be found nor will any of its early disseminators. By the time a false charge has grown large enough for its effect to be noticed or to even to fall upon the ears of those defamed by it, the ones who started the smear are long gone, and their creation is spreading outwards in exponential fashion.

Those to whom falls the unhappy task of quelling the harmful rumors that have attached to their firms at least have a bit of a chance at getting to the source when what was said is distributed via e-mail. Gossip spread in written form is a tadge easier to track than gossip passed behind hands, but it's still a herculean task, and it never comes with a guarantee of success.

One such combatant is a gas station in Naperville, Illinois. It is attempting to sue a variety of folks who participated in a similar baseless slander against it. E-mailed exhortations to boycott that particular Mobil station because someone claimed to have seen a poster of Osama bin Laden displayed there have caused a one-third drop in that outlet's business. There's never been such a poster displayed there, and indeed the station has always proudly displayed the American flag. Moreover, the owners of the maligned gas station are from India and have lived in the U.S.A. for 22 years.

In a wider context, the basic rumor is even sometimes voiced as a generalized "Arabs were celebrating in the streets" claim:

Have you heard that Arab Americans were publicly celebrating the events of September 11 in some large US cities? Supposedly this was suppressed by news agencies.

Needless to say, such a story would not have been sat upon by the media -- it would have run on every front page across the nation in the same manner as the video of celebrating Palestinians achieved widespread air play.

Other blossomings of the rumor have Arab schoolchildren cheering from their seats in U.S. schools.

Another widespread version of the tale draws in former gridiron star Terry Bradshaw:

I have heard a few times that after the Sept. 11 attacks, Terry Bradshaw was in a bar. Outside, there were some mid-east people celebrating and waving a Palastinian flag. Bradshaw became so upset, he went outside and kicked their asses.


There is a rumor going around about a football player, who on seeing 5 young arab men celebrating and dragging the American flag, tackled two to the ground and were fighting the other three when the police arrived. The police then took them all downtown, keeping the five arab men and letting the football player go. As the cop dropped the football player off where he lived, he congradulated the man and said, "I would have done the same thing!". The strange thing about this is that the football player was Terry Bradshaw.

Bradshaw refuted the rumor on the 31 October 2001 edition of television's 20/20, but the folks at "The John Boy & Billy Show" tell us the account was based on a real incident, albeit starring a different Bradshaw:

I'm pleased to be able to point out the original source for the the rumor about "Terry Bradshaw vs. the Arabs." The incident happened to a friend and business associate of ours, Brad Bradshaw, who's a regional rep for Pabst Blue Ribbon beer. Brad was in Las Vegas on business on September 11, and is the real Bradshaw in the story.

Brad was on the street near the Bally's hotel/casino when he saw a group of five Middle Eastern men giggling as they dragged an American flag across the sidewalk on the opposite side of the street. Incensed by the display, the former University of Tennessee linebacker darted across the traffic, intending to rip the flag from the group's hands. After a brief dustup, Brad and the five men were detained by Vegas police, who held the six of them for a short time.

Beyond the myriad of "Is it true?" questions arising from such rumors lurks the larger issue of what such rumors say about the current feeling in America towards Muslims and those from Arab countries. We are all too aware that the terrorists who struck on 11 September 2001 lived and walked among us camouflaged in the garb of law-abiding folk, and that it is all too likely others of that group are still in our midst. Suspicion against others — especially those of different religion or color — runs rampant. Previously trusted neighbors are now viewed with trepidation.

Rumored reports of Arabs celebrating wildly as they viewed the planes striking the World Trade Center towers and the Pentagon work to confirm that sense of unease, in that they seem to say we'll never know what truly resides in the hearts of Muslims and Arab-Americans or where their actual loyalties lie. As such, these rumors give voice to deeply felt concerns that otherwise would be difficult to put into words.

It's a shame, but our mistrust — even though it's justly felt in light of how innocuous the terrorists appeared to be prior to 11 September — will affect countless thousands of peaceable and wholly patriotic members of American society simply because they've an accent or a certain look to them.

Likewise, calls to shun particular businesses named in the "celebrating Arabs" rumor strike a responsive chord with a populace in desperate need to feel it is doing something to aid its country. Those possessed of a particular foreign look thus find themselves the target of a great deal of misplaced anger as those in need of venting some of the poison from their systems latch upon seemingly appropriate targets. One cannot, after all, scoop up a gun and take off to Afghanistan to participate in bringing bin Laden to bay, but one can quite vocally participate in a mis-aimed boycott. The need for a cathartic release at times overwhelms the need to direct the spew towards only those who truly deserve it. Bystanders become victims, and the truth limps in a far distant second to the need not to feel helpless in the face of a menace that cannot easily be grasped or guarded against.

Barbara "menace at work" Mikkelson

Last updated:   13 November 2001


658 posted on 11/24/2003 6:05:06 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: EUPHORIC
Happy, so sorry to see you allow yourself to be used as a dupe.

Tell you what, I'll set out to prove that the Judeo-Christian God wants to destroy all Muslims.

To do that, I'll post some rhetoprical questions, just like in your post, then parse a few, out of context phrases out of the Old Testament to prove that I'm right.

Question: Does the Judeo-Christian God order its followers to kill every last enemy of Israel?

Joshua 10:28-40

That day Joshua took Makkedah. He put the city and its king to the sword and totally destroyed everyone in it. He left no survivors. And he did to the king of Makkedah as he had done to the king of Jericho.

Then Joshua and all Israel with him moved on from Makkedah to Libnah and attacked it. The LORD also gave that city and its king into Israel's hand. The city and everyone in it Joshua put to the sword. He left no survivors there. And he did to its king as he had done to the king of Jericho.

Then Joshua and all Israel with him moved on from Libnah to Lachish; he took up positions against it and attacked it. The LORD handed Lachish over to Israel, and Joshua took it on the second day. The city and everyone in it he put to the sword, just as he had done to Libnah. Meanwhile, Horam king of Gezer had come up to help Lachish, but Joshua defeated him and his army--until no survivors were left.

Then Joshua and all Israel with him moved on from Lachish to Eglon; they took up positions against it and attacked it. They captured it that same day and put it to the sword and totally destroyed everyone in it, just as they had done to Lachish.

Then Joshua and all Israel with him went up from Eglon to Hebron and attacked it. They took the city and put it to the sword, together with its king, its villages and everyone in it. They left no survivors. Just as at Eglon, they totally destroyed it and everyone in it.

Then Joshua and all Israel with him turned around and attacked Debir. They took the city, its king and its villages, and put them to the sword. Everyone in it they totally destroyed. They left no survivors. They did to Debir and its king as they had done to Libnah and its king and to Hebron.

So Joshua subdued the whole region, including the hill country, the Negev, the western foothills and the mountain slopes, together with all their kings. He left no survivors. He totally destroyed all who breathed, just as the LORD, the God of Israel, had commanded.


659 posted on 11/24/2003 6:24:47 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: bonfire
As a Southern Baptist, I can tell you that the joke we tell amongst ourselves concerns our fear.... We are afraid, terrified, petrified, that somewhere, somebody is having a good time... :-) Sad, but true...
660 posted on 11/24/2003 6:25:32 AM PST by dwd1 (M. h. D. (Master of Hate and Discontent))
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