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"...our eyes wait upon the LORD our God, until that he have mercy upon us." (Ps. 123:2b)

"For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth." (Ps. 37:9)

1 posted on 11/18/2003 5:41:25 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: Budge; Pegita; cyn; Ladysmith; Calpernia; Babalu; floriduh voter; dandelion; PleaseNoMore; ...
New thread ping!

If you want on or off of this ping list, please let me know.

2 posted on 11/18/2003 5:45:18 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.")
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To: sweetliberty
I love today's scriptures.
7 posted on 11/18/2003 6:09:24 PM PST by Krodg
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To: All; sweetliberty
Somebody please catch me up to speed...

Florida statute says that artificial life support can be removed if either a)terminal, b)PVS or C)end of life condition.

Florida statute defines PVS:
(12) "Persistent vegetative state" means a permanent and irreversible condition of unconsciousness in which there is: (a) The absence of voluntary action or cognitive behavior of any kind. (b) An inability to communicate or interact purposefully with the environment.

Yet, Judge Greer ruled Terri's responses were not consistent, not that she didn't have any kind of voluntary action or cognitive behavior.

HOW can this ruling stand if he violated Florida statute with his ruling?
9 posted on 11/18/2003 6:19:45 PM PST by Micavaga (DV can NOT be tolerated any longer in this country!)
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To: sweetliberty; KDubRN
KDubRN just posted some shocking new information on post #1203 on the old thread. I'm pinging her to this thread and asking her to repost it here.
13 posted on 11/18/2003 8:40:09 PM PST by lonevoice (Legal disclaimer: The above is MY OPINION)
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To: sweetliberty

Today - November 18, 2003
Story from AP.

Volunteers who wish to take action can contact the following Florida Agencies demanding that a full investigation be made into allegations of abuse and neglect of a vulnerable adult under Florida Statute 415.104 (Protective investigations of cases of abuse, neglect, or exploitation of vulnerable adults; transmittal of records to state attorney.)

Suncoast Region - Adult Services Program
9393 N. Florida Avenue
Tampa, FL 33612-7907
(813) 558-5580
800-96-ABUSE - State Offices

State Attorney, McCabe Bernie
14250 49th St N
Clearwater, FL 33762-2800
(727) 464-6221

Pinellas County Sheriff's Department
Largo, FL 33770
(727) 588-6777

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Family attorney, Patricia Anderson speaks to Glenn Beck about this case.
Terri's Law Who is Terri Schiavo?

20 posted on 11/18/2003 9:20:15 PM PST by Coleus (Only half the patients who go into an abortion clinic come out alive.)
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To: sweetliberty
BUMP
21 posted on 11/18/2003 9:31:53 PM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: sweetliberty
I think my muse is awake tonight and seething at the never-ending injustices done to a helpless woman.

Baird be nimble, Greer be quick,
Kill the halt, the lame, the sick.
Kill the aged, kill the blind,
Kill anyone -- hey, they won't mind.
Kill the Christians, kill the Jews,
If they can't speak, it's what they'd choose.
They've no need of earthly things:
Kill their cats and steal their rings.

48 posted on 11/18/2003 11:24:43 PM PST by T'wit
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To: sweetliberty
Can you pls tell us in simple, plain English what this is about? Is she responsive in a coma, or vegetative, or what? Plain, simple English pls, for those of us who are not Catholic and don't want to click on 12 separate links? THANKS
50 posted on 11/19/2003 12:05:53 AM PST by japaneseghost
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To: All
Here's another naysayer to freep.

I'm not trying to be rude, but why is Terri's life so important?

I know there is a following here on FR; spiritually, legally and morally. But what makes her so special? What make's Laci so special for that matter?

No matter how I put this it will be considered rude. But I am curious. As much as I do agree that life is special for everyone, why this pick and choose?

Now, this one will REALLY get me flamed. How does anyone know that not letting her die is not really the most peaceful way she can go (yes, starvation is bad. But O.D. on some barbituates?) I have no problems saying it, if I EVER enter her condition, I wouldn't want freepers like I have witnessed keeping me on a tube. Quite honestly, I have an eternity of sweet, sweet goodness awaiting. I'd rather hit up eternity than live in a dilapitated state.

Flame on..

53 posted on 11/19/2003 12:17:05 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck ("Across this great nation people pray -- do not put out her flame" -- DFU. An unashamed Godsquadder)
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To: sweetliberty
Sweetliberty, thanks so much for all you do! I'm not able to follow Terri's case like I once was, but lurk every chance I get. Your threads are awesome when there is so little time. Still praying..
64 posted on 11/19/2003 1:38:35 AM PST by trustandobey
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To: sweetliberty
Appeals Court Overturns Stay, Lawsuit Against Terri's Law Proceeds</>
114 posted on 11/19/2003 10:12:58 AM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: sweetliberty
Man Dies After Judge Refuses Request to Reinstate Life Support
146 posted on 11/19/2003 12:54:00 PM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: sweetliberty
Michael: Block Bone Scan Showing Possible Abuse of Terri Schiavo
147 posted on 11/19/2003 1:00:47 PM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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LIFE AND DEATH TUG OF WAR Jeb Bush says Terri - must have jury trial Florida governor launches legal volley at husband of brain-damaged woman
228 posted on 11/20/2003 8:27:25 AM PST by JustPiper (All 19 of the hijackers entered the U.S. on valid visas- 18 of 19 had State Driver's Licenses!!!)
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To: sweetliberty
Judge in Terri's Law Case Refuses to Step Down Despite Possible Bias
325 posted on 11/21/2003 12:44:48 PM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: sweetliberty
BTTT so I don't lose my place again. lol It's kinda cool this afternoon. It's definitely fall here.
398 posted on 11/22/2003 1:20:43 PM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org freeper site)
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To: sweetliberty
Schiavo clash is rooted in cash


The dispute between Michael Schiavo and his in-laws began when Bob and Mary Schindler said he owed them money, court records show.

By WILLIAM R. LEVESQUE, Times Staff Writer
Published November 23, 2003





Valentine's Day, 1993.

Michael Schiavo sat by his brain-damaged wife, Terri, at a Largo nursing home as he studied for college classes. Schiavo had brought two dozen roses not long after a jury in a medical malpractice case awarded the couple about $1-million.

Terri Schiavo's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, walked in. An argument started. With an exchange of heated words, some involving that money, Schiavo's close relationship with the Schindlers ended.

Today, Schiavo and the Schindlers are combatants in the best known right-to-die case in the nation. They are divided by their hopes of Schiavo's recovery and their beliefs of whether she should live or die. But court records show that the origins of that decade-old dispute involved something far less critical than Schiavo's life.

It involved money.
http://www.sptimes.com/2003/11/23/Tampabay/Schiavo_clash_is_root.shtml

Todays Saint Petersburg Times.
531 posted on 11/23/2003 12:11:27 PM PST by KDD
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To: sweetliberty
Bump for Terri. . .
587 posted on 11/23/2003 5:49:21 PM PST by cricket
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To: sweetliberty; All
I have a guardianship question. According to 2003 law, MS would have needed a court order before taking Terri to California for any experimental biomedical or behavorial procedure (I'm assuming the electrodes applies.) Was this law the same in 1990-1993, and if so, did he get one?

744.3215(4)(b) Rights of persons determined incapacitated.--

(4) Without first obtaining specific authority from the court, as described in s. 744.3725, a guardian may not:

(b)Consent on behalf of the ward to the performance on the ward of any experimental biomedical or behavioral procedure or to the participation by the ward in any biomedical or behavioral experiment. The court may permit such performance or participation only if: 1. It is of direct benefit to, and is intended to preserve the life of or prevent serious impairment to the mental or physical health of the ward; or 2. It is intended to assist the ward to develop or regain his or her abilities.


http://www.flsenate.gov/statutes/index.cfm?mode=View%20Statutes&SubMenu=1&App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=CH0744/Sec3215.HTM
611 posted on 11/23/2003 8:50:03 PM PST by Micavaga
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