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9th Circuit Ruling Says Federal Ban on Homemade Machineguns Exceeds Commerce Clause Authority
Keep and Bear Arms ^ | 14 November 2003 | staff

Posted on 11/14/2003 12:40:55 PM PST by 45Auto

U.S. v Stewart has finally struck a blow for freedom. In a November 13 published opinion from the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, a majority of 2 to 1 says that the federal government's ban on homemade machineguns is abusive of the government's authority to regulate interstate commerce.

Ninth Circuit judge Alex Kozinski wrote the opinion. Judge Kozinski is the same judge who wrote a strong dissent in the Silveira v. Lockyer case, firmly supporting the true meaning of the Second Amendment.

The relevant and most interesting text from the ruling:

"We start by considering the first and fourth prongs of the Morrison test, as we have deemed them the most important. See McCoy, 323 F.3d at 1119. The first prong is not satisfied here. Possession of a machinegun is not, without more, economic in nature. Just like the statute struck down in Lopez, section 922(o) “is a criminal statute that by its terms has nothing to do with ‘commerce’ or any sort of economic enterprise, however broadly one might define those terms.” Lopez, 514 U.S at 561. Unlike in Wickard v. Filburn, 317 U.S. 111 (1942), where growing wheat in one’s backyard could be seen as a means of saving money that would otherwise have been spent in the open market, a homemade machinegun may be part of a gun collection or may be crafted as a hobby. Or it may be used for illegal purposes. Whatever its intended use, without some evidence that it will be sold or transferred—and there is none here—its relationship to interstate commerce is highly attenuated.

"Moreover, the regulation itself does not have an economic purpose: whereas the statute in Wickard was enacted primarily to control the market price of wheat, id. at 115, there is no evidence that section 922(o) was enacted to regulate commercial aspects of the machinegun business. More likely, section 922(o) was intended to keep machineguns out of the hands of criminals—an admirable goal, but not a commercial one." . . .

"This case fails Morrison’s other requirements as well.

"As we stated earlier, section 922(o) contains no jurisdictional element anchoring the prohibited activity to interstate commerce. Congress also failed to make any legislative findings when it enacted the statute. While neither Lopez nor Morrison requires Congress to make findings every time it passes a law under its Commerce Clause power, the Supreme Court did note the importance of findings where—as here—such findings would “enable [a court] to evaluate the legislative judgment that the activity in question substantially affected interstate commerce, even though no such substantial effect was visible to the naked eye.” Lopez, 514 U.S. at 563."

While we aren't necessarily recommending that you run out to get the parts to start making your own machineguns, we certainly appreciate the honesty from Judge Kozinski -- and we do believe that he is right. The federal government has been abusing the commerce clause for decades, to the detriment of individual liberties from sea to shining sea.

On June 3, 2002 Bob Stewart was sentenced to five years in prison. He was convicted of being a felon in possession of a firearm and of possessing several unregistered machineguns -- homemade machineguns. The machinegun possession conviction was just overturned. Naturally, the federal government will appeal -- either to an en banc panel in the Ninth Circuit, or to the U.S. Supreme Court. After all, the gun banners can't stand to lose power -- no matter how wrong they truly are. Such is tyranny -- when power is more important than the plain and simple truth.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; US: California
KEYWORDS: 9th; bang; banglist; circuit; court
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To: Southack
Southack said: "Still, it's pretty amazing to see the 9th actually follow Constitutional law for their *reasoning* in any of their rulings. "

This was evidently the ruling of a three judge panel with two of the judges supporting this decision. This might be expected to happen whenever two of the few conservative judges get assigned to the same case.

It still makes for interesting cases because now a full panel of judges ( is it 11?) may re-hear the case. This full panel will have a harder time just ignoring the issues or failing to apply relevant legal tests.

21 posted on 11/14/2003 1:59:41 PM PST by William Tell
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To: Southack
Alex Kozinski is a solid conservative. Maybe Traitor Reinhardt wasn't around for this one.
22 posted on 11/14/2003 2:04:14 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Today's music ain't got the same soul. I like that old time Rock N Roll" - Bob Seger)
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To: 45Auto
GO BOB!!! Was wondering how/what he was doing. WOO-HOO!!!
23 posted on 11/14/2003 2:10:58 PM PST by ctdonath2
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To: Dan from Michigan
"Alex Kozinski is a solid conservative."

He did agree though in this case with the rest of the 9th, in that the 2nd was not an individual right. Is he really conservative?

24 posted on 11/14/2003 2:50:21 PM PST by spunkets
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To: spunkets
I thought he dissented and said the 2nd WAS an individual right.
25 posted on 11/14/2003 2:51:14 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Today's music ain't got the same soul. I like that old time Rock N Roll" - Bob Seger)
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To: Southack
>>>>>>Makes one wonder just what they're up to...

Naw. Just trying to make the world safe for drug dealing machine gun toting pornograpers.

patent
26 posted on 11/14/2003 3:04:48 PM PST by patent (A baby is God's opinion that life should go on. Carl Sandburg)
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To: Dan from Michigan
All I can see is...

"Opinion by Judge Kozinski
Partial Concurrence and Partial Dissent by Judge Restani.

27 posted on 11/14/2003 3:05:19 PM PST by spunkets
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To: 45Auto
Hot digidy dog! Now I can dig up my old issues of FIREPOWER Magazine and my copy of WEAPONS OF THE AMERICAN UNDERGROUND!

LOCK and LOAD, ROCK and ROLL!

28 posted on 11/14/2003 3:52:56 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Could you spare a dollar for a fellow American down on his luck?)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Depends on the state you are in. Most states have been illegally lobbied by the Feds to pass their own version of laws outlawing private possession of full auto guns.
29 posted on 11/14/2003 4:16:11 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
ownership is lawful here!

30 posted on 11/14/2003 4:31:05 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Could you spare a dollar for a fellow American down on his luck?)
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To: 45Auto
By inference, home made pistols and silencers would not be regulated as well.

Anyone with access to car leaf spring steal, a home made propane forge, and machine tools could make their own firearms and not get in trouble with the law - as long as the firearm is not sold.
31 posted on 11/14/2003 6:41:12 PM PST by taxcontrol (People are entitled to their opinion - no matter how wrong it is.)
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To: spunkets
He did agree though in this case with the rest of the 9th, in that the 2nd was not an individual right. Is he really conservative?

More libertarian than conservative, but solid nonetheless. One of the smartest guys you'd ever meet.

He dissented from the 9th Circuit's holding that the 2nd Amendment was not an individual right, but he is bound by that decision unless the Supremes or the whole 9th circuit change it. That's why he had to apply Silviera in this case.

32 posted on 11/14/2003 6:46:30 PM PST by the bottle let me down (Still tilting at windmills)
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To: ctdonath2; Eaker; Squantos
The five years for the MGs might be vacated, but he'll still have to face the 20 years for trying to put a hit on the judge with a jailhouse snitch.
33 posted on 11/14/2003 8:39:28 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
i>ownership is lawful here!

Be carefull, and read the statute carefully. In many states ownership is lawful *only* if the federal tax stamp is obtained. I know that's the way it is in Texas. From the Texas Penal Code:

§ 46.05. Prohibited Weapons

(a) A person commits an offense if he intentionally or knowingly possesses, manufactures, transports, repairs, or sells:

(1) an explosive weapon;

(2) a machine gun;

(3) a short-barrel firearm;

(4) a firearm silencer;

...

(c) It is a defense to prosecution under this section that the actor's possession was pursuant to registration pursuant to the National Firearms Act, as amended.

So in Texas, you're still not able to own them without jumping through the Federal hoops.

A quick search of Arkansas code reveals a similar requirment for federal registration. It's in called the Subchapter 2. Uniform Machine Gun Act of Chapter 73 Weapons of Title 5 of The Arkansas Code. Just go here and search for "machine gun". You'll get the bad news. Possesion with "offesive or aggressive purpose", which is presumend w/o the registration, will get you minimum 10 years. The same as you'd get if you robbed a store at knife point.
TANJ!

34 posted on 11/14/2003 8:42:41 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Dan from Michigan
I thought he dissented and said the 2nd WAS an individual right.

Kozinski *did* dissent in the Silviera case - it even says so in the above article. His dissent was a scathing, blistering masterpiece, too. If you haven't had opportunity to read it, please do so. It's so refreshing to see a 9th Circuit judge whose brain is functional!

35 posted on 11/14/2003 8:45:44 PM PST by Cloud William
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To: Travis McGee
I would have rather seen this struck down based upon purely Second Amendment grounds, but with their prior decision, I suppose that would have been too much to ask for out of the 9th.
36 posted on 11/14/2003 8:55:20 PM PST by ConservativeLawyer
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To: taxcontrol
"By inference, home made pistols and silencers would not be regulated as well. "

Home made pistols are currently legal. --- You can buy an 80 percent finished receiver (the part regulated if 100 percent finished ) without an FFL, finish it yourself and then buy the other finished parts to make a working pistol, approved by the BATF.

You can legally do the same with an AR-15.

37 posted on 11/14/2003 9:20:25 PM PST by gatex
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To: 45Auto
I can't believe the 9th Circuit Ruling Says Federal Ban on Homemade Machineguns Exceeds Commerce Clause Authority.

I wonder how this is going to end?

38 posted on 11/14/2003 11:19:33 PM PST by 2nd_Amendment_Defender ("It is when people forget God that tyrants forge their chains." -- Patrick Henry)
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To: El Gato
Well damn! You just punctured my balloon!
39 posted on 11/15/2003 5:02:19 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (When someone burns a cross on your lawn the best firehose is an AK-47.)
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To: Travis McGee
Hit? Obviously there is much more to this case than I've gleaned (with effort). Any thorough summary of the situation availble?
40 posted on 11/17/2003 7:13:46 AM PST by ctdonath2
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