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The Assault Weapons Ban May Be Bush's Undoing
TooGood Reports ^ | 13 November 2003 | Lee R Shelton IV

Posted on 11/13/2003 12:45:22 PM PST by 45Auto

George W. Bush and his neoconservative advisers have decided that their best strategy for the 2004 campaign is to focus on the "doctrine of preemption." The obvious goal is to portray the president as a hero in the war on terror, conveying the notion that he is the one who is able to keep America safe. Unfortunately for Bush, his position on the assault weapons ban may cause his reelection plans to unravel.

Many conservatives currently feel comfortable backing Bush for a second term. For one thing, he cut taxes, and the economy is on the rebound. He has shown courage by taking on global terrorism. He appointed as Attorney General a man who believes that the Second Amendment supports an individual's right to keep and bear arms. Bush is every conservative's dream, right? Think again.

During his 2000 campaign, candidate Bush voiced his support of the assault weapons ban that was passed during the Clinton administration. The federal law is scheduled to expire on Sept. 13, 2004, and Bush, speaking as president, has already stated that he supports its reauthorization.

Some have tried to excuse the president's position by arguing that he is merely telling people what they want to hear, stating publicly that the ban is a good thing while remaining confident that renewal of the ban will never even make it through the House of Representatives. That may offer some comfort to disgruntled conservatives, but it is important to remember that 38 Republicans voted for the ban in 1994 and 42 voted against its repeal in 1996. That doesn't bode well for freedom-loving Americans.

Don't be surprised in the coming months to see the Bush administration pushing for a renewal of the assault weapons ban by promoting it as an effective tool in our fight against terrorism. After all, such a ban would make it easier for law enforcement officers to break up terrorist organizations here in the United States. In 1993, for example, a raid on a Muslim commune in central Colorado turned up bombs, automatic weapons, ammunition and plans for terrorist attacks.

On Dec. 6, 2001, Attorney General John Ashcroft, testifying before Congress, revealed an al-Qaida training manual that had been discovered in Afghanistan. The manual, he claimed, told terrorists "how to use America's freedom as a weapon against us." The fear was that terrorists in the U.S. would exploit loopholes in our gun laws in an effort to arm themselves – and with radical groups like Muslims of America already purchasing guns, we can't be too careful.

Like most federal laws, the assault weapons ban was originally passed with the assumption that Americans are willing to sacrifice liberty for safety. This, of course, has been historically a safe assumption on the part of our elected officials in Washington. But Bush's position on the assault weapons ban may very well come back to haunt him when he seeks to reconnect with his conservative base in 2004.

The hypocrisy of the president has already been revealed. He spoke out in favor of the government's prerogative to trample on the Second Amendment – under the guise of "reasonable" gun legislation – at the same time he was sending troops armed with fully automatic weapons to Iraq. This may seem like a stupid question, but if soldiers are allowed to carry assault weapons in order to provide for the common defense, why can't that same right be extended to civilians who want nothing more than to defend their homes and families?

John Ashcroft once said during his confirmation hearing, "I don't believe the Second Amendment to be one that forbids any regulation of guns." Far be it from me to contradict the highest-ranking law enforcement officer in the country, but the Constitution forbids exactly that. The federal government is barred from passing any law that may infringe upon the right of Americans to keep and bear arms. Period. It can't be explained in simpler terms than that.

President Bush would be wise to reconsider his position on the assault weapons ban. If he isn't careful, he and other members of his administration may end up alienating the few true conservatives left in the Republican Party – and that would be a mistake this close to election time.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: aw; awb; ban; bang; banglist; bush; guncontrol; righttobeararms; rkba; secondamendment
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To: Travis McGee
Why is he 'shouldering' the weapon with his testes?

Is he another SEAL?

;^)

621 posted on 11/19/2003 6:44:03 AM PST by Lazamataz (PROUDLY SCARING FELLOW FREEPERS SINCE 1999 !!!!)
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To: Badray
What about the honesty and integrity of the man? What about adherence to the Constitution? Are those things important to you at all?

This _should_ be a rhetorical yes for all concerned citizens pro-actively involved in government.

It seems like many treat money or looks as more important than adherence to Constitution.

622 posted on 11/19/2003 6:51:57 AM PST by The_Eaglet
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To: The_Eaglet
Admittedly I came to the party late...but I gave up reading around #285 or so in an effort to keep the thread to a managable length....

;^)

623 posted on 11/19/2003 8:24:10 AM PST by Abundy
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To: Lazamataz
That gives me a clue...is he the jackass that runs that bar?

Come on, explain it...

624 posted on 11/19/2003 8:25:07 AM PST by Abundy
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To: Abundy
Nothing wrong with that. There is more to life than being one of the first 50 to add comments to an FR article page.
625 posted on 11/19/2003 8:37:49 AM PST by The_Eaglet
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To: RKBAbang
Welcome to FR! It's always nice too see supporters of the 2nd join our ranks.
626 posted on 11/19/2003 8:46:09 AM PST by jmc813 (Michael Schiavo is a bigger scumbag than Bill Clinton)
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To: MindBender26
Laz, Don't waste time on tpaine. He is professional PIA, sinmply here to disrupt the progression of thought, logic and truth.
He fancies himself as a bit of an intelectual, but the so-called logic is simply anti-conservative to it's core. Not liberal, but anti-conservative.
Sort of a luded out Michael.
618 -MB26-





Bender, your post 618 is really sad. -
I thought you had recovered from the worse of the mental problems you exhibited in our last exchange a couple years ago, when you made death threats.. -- Remember your words about being a trained killer in Nam? -- I do, and they scared me almost as much as your threats of legal action by the attorney you keep on retainer.
627 posted on 11/19/2003 9:04:12 AM PST by tpaine (I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but FRs flying monkey squad brings out the Rickenbacker in me.)
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To: Badray
"Is there nothing important enough to you that will cause you to withhold your vote? What is your process for deciding who gets your vote? I'd love to see how you arrive at your decisions."

It is quite easy to see how I arrive at my decisions.

The last thing that I would want to see is a President Dean or Hillary.
I would never let single issue arrogance get in the way of the greater good of the country.
628 posted on 11/19/2003 9:10:16 AM PST by AlexW
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Unlike Clinton he does what he believes to be correct no matter how popular or unpopular. THAT is a leader.

Since he has not vetored any legislation thsfar, I can then conclude that he has supported every bill that has hit his desk?

629 posted on 11/19/2003 9:21:33 AM PST by jmc813 (Michael Schiavo is a bigger scumbag than Bill Clinton)
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To: Travis McGee
Apparently you are unaware of 17th and 18th century military history but I'M the "moron." OK whatever.

I never said any of the idiotic comments you put in my mouth. Why don't you TRY and restrict yourself to what was actually said rather than make up things to make your ridiculous hypothesis look plausible?
630 posted on 11/19/2003 10:52:25 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: Lazamataz
That was not his hypothetical scenario.
631 posted on 11/19/2003 10:56:24 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: MileHi
Informal militia is not well-defined thus, it is hard to say exactly what might be meant by that today but it is not likely to have anything to do with firearms at all. Maybe cleaning up after floods, fires etc. or filling sandbags to prevent flooding. It is not referenced AT ALL in the Constitution as you initially tried to claim.

It is not MY idea but the idea of the Founders as to how a militia is constituted take your argument to them. The writers of the Constitution knew very well what they were describing and it is not the pathetic bunch of losers who call themselves the "Michigan Militia" or "the MOntana Militia."

I have no problem with provision of training in firearms for all law-abiding adults, in fact, I like the idea.

My definition of "well-regulated" comes from dictionaries. I note you have provided nothing which is applicable believing for some wierd reason that the militia was a type of clock. The Founders vision of a militia has nothing to do with clocks, hillary or Dick Dumbass Durbin the gun grabbing Senator from my State.
632 posted on 11/19/2003 11:05:29 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: CarryaBigStick
I think there should be rifle clubs in high schools like there was when I was a boy. Nor am I for bans on automatic or semi-automatic weapons.

I prefer a well-armed citizenry to a disarmed one and one that knows how to shoot. If one can't shoot well one should not have a gun since that is too dangerous for by-standers and others.

However, one certainly needs nothing more than a single shot .22 to become a good shot. Automatics probably reduce the incentive to learn how to shoot accurately.
633 posted on 11/19/2003 11:10:17 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: Lazamataz
Iron balls.
634 posted on 11/19/2003 11:12:03 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: Abundy
That name was just a hypothetical Laz made up to prove a point not a real person.
635 posted on 11/19/2003 11:12:43 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: jmc813
To some extent but not entirely.

He may feel that, absent a real pressing reason to veto, he will not exercise it. I don't really know though I am sure he is lukewarm with some of the things he signed.
636 posted on 11/19/2003 11:14:42 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: MindBender26
"Voters need to evaluate the ENTIRE candidate, not just his or her stand on one issue."

Granted, and I do do that. But that doesn't mean that someone gets a pass from me just because the opponent is far less perfect.

Look, what politicians want most is to be elected and reelected, right? If we continue to reelect them without holding them to account for what they have done, they will continue to ignore us and our issues. When they get fired, or see another politician fired for what they did wrong, they pay attention.

It's sad that it has got to this point, but if the pubbies want to continue to hold power, they better pay attention to the segment of the party that holds gun rights sacred. We may not be the majority of the party, but a significant minority that can influence elections. It wasn't us that asked for the "Big Tent" party, but since we're here, we will voice our concerns and we will be ignored at the peril of the party.

What you must understand is that we aren't asking for anyone to give us anything. We don't want something that doesn't belong to us. We aren't seeking special programs that someone else must pay for. We are not the typical 'special interest' or 'single issue' group.

Our issue is THE single issue. It's FREEDOM. If the pols don't trust us (the American people) with guns, why should we trust them? Free men own guns, slaves do not. When we lose our single issue, America is no longer the grand experiment that started so long ago.

That's why we are so adamant. And if both major parties are intent on disarming us, then so be it. Let's find out now while we are still all as well armed as we are. We can't wait until the only legal firearm is a single shot .22 that is registered with the government and stored in their storage facilities until we check it out to shoot on government approved ranges.

Does that help you to understand us 'single issue' voters a little bit better?

If not, may your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity not know that you are our brethren.

637 posted on 11/19/2003 11:16:00 AM PST by Badray (Molon Labe!)
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To: tpaine
I do not support the AW ban. Bush will violate no oath by signing one however. It will just be something I disagree with him over among several.
638 posted on 11/19/2003 11:17:35 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: The_Eaglet
" This _should_ be a rhetorical yes..."

I think you mean that it should be an automatic yes, and not just rhetorical. I agree if that's what you mean. I just had a phone conversation with a friend and he was complaining about how everyone "feels" today and doesn't think. Even men. He's right. The 'thinkers' are an endangered species.

639 posted on 11/19/2003 11:24:57 AM PST by Badray (Molon Labe!)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Thanks
640 posted on 11/19/2003 11:33:56 AM PST by Abundy
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