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"Do Not Call" Means Poorest May Lose Jobs
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Posted on 11/11/2003 10:23:26 AM PST by LowCountryJoe
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To: Held_to_Ransom
For myself, I do insurance now. It's exempted. What's your number fool? Well, if you enjoy harassing people at home and consider that a legitimate livelihood, by all means, go ahead. A lot of whores have no problems with what they do, either.
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posted on
11/11/2003 1:34:13 PM PST
by
Modernman
(It puts the lotion in the basket or it gets the hose again)
To: Held_to_Ransom
Actually, what most people like to do most is bitch and moan. What are you gonna do that about next now that TM is gone? Let me get this striaght - You're sitting here bitching about all the useless telemarketers who may lose their jobs and you complain about "bitching and moaning"? Boy, get yourself a mirror!
As for asking the government to help you, I have no symphathy for Democrats, or people who think they aren't Democrats.
Its no different than asking the government to help police my property against other soliciters and tresspassers. Its just that you think there's some magical difference between harassing someone in person and doing so with a telephone. I'm not sure why you would consider that as being a democrat.
Unbearable barrage of phone calls? Wow. Did you wilt? Shrink? Turn pale and have a heart attack? Did you just hide in the closet and cry?
Dude - listen up - its MY telephone and I don't want you or your useless deceptive telemarketers calling me at any hour. Ever! And nobody is entitled to tresspass on my property including my phone line unless I give permission. Is that such a hard concept for you to understand? Apparently, for most telemarketers it is, since the vast majority of people in this country have turned to the government, much like they'd turn to the police, to help enforce that concept.
The more you depend on government to do things for you, the less freedom you will have. All you did was make government bigger and assist large corporations in stepping on small independent businessmen. You sir, are no American.
Baloney - you're making a mountain out of a molehill. This is no different than a do-not-solicit sign for the phone line. And since it involves interstate commerce, the US government is the only logical entity with jurisdiction.
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posted on
11/11/2003 1:38:59 PM PST
by
meyer
To: palmer
There are marketplace solutions already, my cell phone company doesn't allow its block of numbers to be autodialed. If you think for a minute that your cell phone will remain immune, think again. The marketers are already salivating just thinking about the opportunity to cash in on a new group of customers.
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posted on
11/11/2003 1:45:44 PM PST
by
meyer
To: LowCountryJoe
Are you or are you not in favor of the Do Not Call list?
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posted on
11/11/2003 1:47:01 PM PST
by
Darksheare
(Proving that there are alternate perceptions of surreality Since Oct 2, 2000.)
To: meyer
And since it involves interstate commerce, the US government is the only logical entity with jurisdiction. The commerce clause was designed to allow the Federal government to overrule State government restrictions on interstate commerce such as tariffs (or hypothetically, State do-not-call lists). Other than that limited role it has no authority to regulate commerce and especially not to restrict it as in this case.
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posted on
11/11/2003 1:47:10 PM PST
by
palmer
(They've reinserted my posting tube)
To: meyer
You're wrong. My cell provider will lose revenue if they allow those calls.
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posted on
11/11/2003 1:50:21 PM PST
by
palmer
(They've reinserted my posting tube)
To: palmer
The commerce clause was designed to allow the Federal government to overrule State government restrictions on interstate commerce such as tariffs (or hypothetically, State do-not-call lists). Other than that limited role it has no authority to regulate commerce and especially not to restrict it as in this case.This doesn't restrict legitimate commerce, but that's not the point. It enforces trespassing laws at the only level large enough to encompass the trespasser and the property owner. No state or local entity has jurisdiction over out-of-state phone calls, nor can it. Only the federal government has the jurisdiction to do so.
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posted on
11/11/2003 1:51:37 PM PST
by
meyer
To: palmer
You're wrong. My cell provider will lose revenue if they allow those calls.And you know that because.....
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posted on
11/11/2003 1:52:57 PM PST
by
meyer
To: Modernman
A lot of whores have no problems with what they do, eitherAnd I bet the odds are good that if the government actually got rid of whores you would be sorry. If not you, certainly a high percentage of our politicians would be. Such standards you have. Myself, I respect anyone who makes an honest living.
I did spend some time in the industry to study it before I started my own operation. The one thing I noticed when I was on the phone was that the vast majority of people I spoke with assumed I had dark skin. Do you really think that people with such inane powers of judgement are competent to make decisions by themselves? I really don't.
The average American is truly a sheople, and the pols grabbed this one and ran for it because it was a no-brainer decision made by the sheople.
To: ThinkDifferent
sonds lik dey needs to get edumacated in nother feeld.
To: sirchtruth
Please give us your number...we can all call you at 6 PM! What has happened to this country? 30 years ago...10 people didn't call you while you were trying to eat dinner. You get a life...I have other things to do besides answer calls I don't want and hear my phone ring...all the while trying to decide if that "unavailable" number is someone calling with an emergency that my caller ID is not picking up or if I am just going to waste my time.
I have the right to say "don't call my house...and if you do...I will call the police..." I pay the bill...YOU DON'T.
Now...if YOU want to pay MY phone bill...then you can tell me to get a life all you want...and I will take my name off the list and say "thanks very much, bye!" all night long. Deal? Didn't think so.
Again...put your money where your mouth is and post your phone number since you don't care and we are all being selfish. You can easily say "thanks very much, bye."
To: LowCountryJoe
Do ya think that they'll start to get the message THEN??
A BUNCH of THESE will REALLY get your name on a "no call list"!
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posted on
11/11/2003 2:01:09 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Don't believe every prophecy you hear: especially *** ones........)
To: LowCountryJoe
We can ALWAYS invite the salespeople to our door, and then say, "No thanks."
Do ya think that they'll start to get the message THEN??
A BUNCH of THESE will REALLY get your name on a "no call list"!
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posted on
11/11/2003 2:01:26 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Don't believe every prophecy you hear: especially *** ones........)
To: maineman
Two to three times a week? That's all the calls you get? I got more than that in ONE DAY. At times that many within a couple of hours. Even with Caller ID, you still have to stop what you're doing and go to the 'phone to see who is calling. And I have NEVER purchased ANYTHING through a telemarketer.
On the other hand, I don't mind junk mail. In the first place, the sender is paying for it, not me. I do take time to look through my junk mail. I can do that at MY leisure, not someone else's. And I've bought plenty of things from the junk mail I've received. I would never buy anything from a telemarketer no matter how many times they called. And have stopped purchasing from any company that has had a telemarketer call me.
To: TexasCajun
Unpublished?
That won't work for their computer will just go down ALL the POSSIBLE numbers, except for the ones ON the list!
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posted on
11/11/2003 2:04:23 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Don't believe every prophecy you hear: especially *** ones........)
To: LowCountryJoe
I do not agree with you. They infringed on my right to privacy. They intruded upon my space without an invitation to me. I can go on and on about this.
I do not know how many phone calls I would get daily during important acts like changing my baby's diaper. I would rush to the phone, and it would be a telemaketer.
I'm thinking it's my other kid's school or some other emergency, and instead it's a telemaketer.
The other night, I got a phone call in the middle of the night about 3:30am. My husband was out of town, so I immediately thought something happened to him. My brother has terminal cancer, so I then thought something happened to him. I finally get to the phone, and it was a fax machine. I couldn't go back to sleep because I was so wound up.
To: meyer
My provider, Verizon, has sued call spammers.
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posted on
11/11/2003 2:06:44 PM PST
by
palmer
(They've reinserted my posting tube)
To: The Clemson Tiger
Well, if I was a telemarketer
To: sirchtruth
This is more than being bothered. They have woken my sleeping babies. They have disturbed lots of meals. I don't turn off the phone because I actually have real important phone calls from my husband and other family members.
I can remember getting numerous telemaketer phone calls while I'm waiting for a doctor to call me back because I have a sick kid at home. I don't need that.
To: Elsie
Unpublished?
That won't work for their computer will just go down ALL the POSSIBLE numbers, except for the ones ON the list! That's when I Zap them with my Zapper! ...it works.
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