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1 posted on 11/07/2003 4:19:15 PM PST by blam
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The EuroAsians mentioned in the article (first-wave) are Paleo-Americans...the second wave of migrants are Paleo-Indians who arrived in the Americas less than 6,000 years ago.

Skeletons discovered in the Americas that are older than 6,000 years are not American Indian/Native American and should not be subject to their heritage claims.

I believe there were more than two waves, there are probably at least two waves that came down the Atlantic coast too.

2 posted on 11/07/2003 4:28:10 PM PST by blam
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The settlers in the first wave, who walked across the Bering Land Bridge 15,000 years ago, were the forebears of present-day inhabitants south of the U.S.-Canadian border. The ancestors of linguistically distinct peoples including the Inuit, Aleut, and Na-Dene speakers made the watery crossing from Asia about 5,000 years ago.
(The people are todays American Indian/Native Americans)

I assume that the parenthentical material was inserted yourself?

If so, you TOTALLY misunderstood the article and actually the parenthetical inserts are COMPETELY contradictory to the immediately preceeding text.

The Inuit and Aleut are Eskimos. Na-Dene peoples are a small portion of current American Indians (Navajos are the largest group, I believe.) The author is ACTUALLY saying MOST of the current American Indians, based on his study, came here 15,000 years ago and are more closely related to the Ainu, etc.

5 posted on 11/07/2003 4:44:16 PM PST by John H K
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The settlers in the first wave, who walked across the Bering Land Bridge 15,000 years ago, were the forebears of present-day inhabitants south of the U.S.-Canadian border

Does this say that Mexicans of Indian ancestry aren't Indians but from a variety of other Asian groups?

7 posted on 11/07/2003 4:47:25 PM PST by RightWhale (Close your tag lines)
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To: blam
Give America BACK to the Eurasians!!!
16 posted on 11/07/2003 5:10:52 PM PST by Map Kernow ("First...take a deep breath....then start yelling!")
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To: blam
For whatever it is worth, there is a "cultural" link (seemingly) between the Ainu, living on the offshore islands of Japan, and the "Iroquois" in NY state.

Both have/had a New Year's tradition involving the ritual sacrifice of a household pet. With the Ainu, it was a bear cub; with the Iroquois, a white dog.Both would strangle the pet, and burn the carcass,for the same reason: the spirit of the sacrificed animal was supposed to tell the other animals how well it had been treated by its human hosts; thus insuring a good hunting season.

There was a secondary item, having to do with the fletching
of arrows, and the carving of a spiral around arrow shafts.
(Presumably it was believed this would impart a slight spin to the arrows, making them more accurate.) This was practiced by the Ainu,the woodland "Sioux", and the Iroquois.

ps: Although we use the names Iroquois and Sioux these days,both names were originally uncomplimentary nicknames bestowed by other tribes.If memory serves, both names suggest they were thought of as "dangerous vipers".
17 posted on 11/07/2003 5:11:30 PM PST by genefromjersey (So little time - so many FLAMES to light !!)
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26 posted on 11/07/2003 11:47:41 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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I think you've got your labelling backward. The descendents of the folks from 15,000 years ago are the ones we'd call native Americans. The descendents fo the folks from 5,000 years ago we lump together as Eskimos.
30 posted on 11/08/2003 7:15:59 AM PST by Junior ("Your superior intellects are no match for our puny weapons!")
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I wonder how this fits in with Cherokee indians that arrived here, what? About a thousand years ago from an island off S. America? Makes me wonder if there were a whole lot of influences other than Asian.

I watched a documentary that maintained, and pretty much proved that people would get together from different places in Europe and the middle east and join together to come here in their reed boats.

One cave was obviously set up for Druid worship with a mixture of symbols in both egyptian and durid and there was writing on the wall from a teenager that basically said something like "Johnny was here".
40 posted on 11/08/2003 10:41:45 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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43 posted on 01/05/2005 10:29:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv (the US population in the year 2100 will exceed a billion, perhaps even three billion.)
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