Kennedy Special to Air on ABC

SeaMax News ^ | 11/6/2003 | Joseph Crane

[NicknamedBob]

"...people are going to believe what they want..."

...but eventually, we'll get them to believe what we want.

[Blood of Tyrants]

Today public opinion surveys show that more than half of Americans believe that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone.

That is because more than half the people are too young to remember and only know what the liberal history books tell them.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

I was a high school freshman in November, 1963 and didn't realize what we'd lost until I saw my folks in tears.

[GB]

Posting anything about the JFK assassination is bound to start a rather spirited debate ... but what the hey? I always suspected a conspiracy until I visited Dealey Plaza and saw all the things I'd heard about over the years. I now am utterly convinced Oswald did it, alone, for the simple reason that the area that looks so big in film is actually so blooming tiny that if there were gunmen all over the place, as all the conspiracy theorists surmise, someone wouldn't have just thought they saw them, they'd have seen them for sure, without any question. And if you look at the record, more people, for sure and without any question, saw Oswald shoot a gun out of the sixth-floor window of the Depository than saw all these phantom gunmen all over Dealey Plaza.

[Naspino]

In this documentary on JFK's assassination who wants to wager that Jennings clears up this JFK cut taxes "lie" that we're all being told - as a service to the viewers of course.

[Corin Stormhands]

Just for the heck of it, and since it's Friday, wanna see if we can get 'em to boot it to Showtime?

[heckler]

The first time that I saw the Zapruder(spmnc)film I knew that Oswald did not fire the shot that killed Kennedy. Its simply a matter of physics, equal and opposite reactions and all that. Who did it??? Dont know.

[GB]

Silliness. JFK cut taxes. It's a matter of historical record. He was by no means a conservative, socially or politically, but he was a darn sight more to the right than his corpulent, florid-faced brother who's been hanging out in the Senate for 40 years. In fact, years ago I read a book by a guy named Vic Gold, who was Spiro Agnew's press secretary and later was a conservative columnist. He said he voted for JFK in 1960 "because I felt sure that any son of Joseph P. Kennedy was much more conservative than any running mate of Henry Cabot Lodge."

[GB]

I'm sure you're talking about JFK's head going backward after the fatal shot. The impact of the bullet is frame 313 of the Zapruder film. Very detailed analysis of the frames surrounding that one show that his head actually moved forward before moving violently backward, and that the violent backward movement was most likely caused by another scientific/physics reaction ... I know this is gross and it's early in the a.m., but there's no other way to put it ... caused by Kennedy's brains spewing out of his head and setting up kind of a jet effect.

[GB]

The best comment I ever heard about why, 40 years later, people STILL refuse to accept that Oswald did this and are still looking for "answers" elsewhere is that the scales aren't balanced in this situation. Meaning that people simply can't comprehend the fact that a nobody, an absolute piece of human debris and flotsam and jetsam like Oswald, could pick off the most important man in the world like a kid shooting at cans. Because of that, they can't accept the simple explanation, they have to keep looking and looking and looking for some other explanation.

[Paradox]

Occam isn't always right, but he gets it far more times than usual, and in this case, I think he's got it right (Oswald did it).

[smith288]

Kennedy, the Democrats posterboy is really closer to a conservative Republican than todays liberals would ever admit.

Tax cutting and an enemy of communism. Similiar to Reagan and Bush today (an enemy of terrorism as well as communism). JFK supported McCarthy as well as his brother Robert. JFK joined republicans in the effort to bring civil rights to blacks in 1957.

JFK wasn't a huge fan of Martin Luther Kings type of activism, he asked him and other civil rights groups to act with more restraint. (today, if a democrat said that, they would be kicked out of the party)

Words such as “Ask not what your country can do for you --ask what you can do for your country.” display his desire for the country to be ran by the people, not as a service for the people. Very conservative thought.

His personal life was indeed suspect, but for Democrats to fawn over Kennedy is not only amusing, its quite telling as a national party (*snicker*) they would use an assasinated conservative President as some sort of campaign tool to get minority and the female vote.

[metesky]

In fact, years ago I read a book by a guy named Vic Gold, who was Spiro Agnew's press secretary and later was a conservative columnist. He said he voted for JFK in 1960 "because I felt sure that any son of Joseph P. Kennedy was much more conservative than any running mate of Henry Cabot Lodge."

Gold must have been having a bad hair day. Old Joe loved the socialist Nazis and H.C. Lodge was a true American conservative who kept us out of the League of Nations.

[Sloth]

Bullet + blood + brains flying out causes an equal & opposite reaction of pushing the head toward the gun.

[Sloth]

only know what the liberal history books tell them.

It's "liberal" to think Oswald did it? Does this make Oliver Stone a conservative?

[metesky]

Words such as “Ask not what your country can do for you --ask what you can do for your country.” display his desire for the country to be ran by the people, not as a service for the people. Very conservative thought.

Actually that statement is among the most socialist statements ever made by an American President. The government is supposed to put us first, not vice versa.

[heckler]

The violent backward motion is the bullet hitting the front of the head. The forward motion before it was simply him moving his head forward for whatever reason. I've heard numerous people including so-called experts from the military try to explain this away. They are all just kidding themselves. They try to come up with some fancy explanation for something that is really quite simple. I'm not going to get into the gory details, as it is to early in the morning, dont want anyone to lose their egg mcmuffin.

I do believe that Oswald fired the shot that hit Kennedy in the upper back, but theres no way that the head shot came from behind him.

[GB]

Uh, I believe Vic was talking about Henry Jr., Nixon's running mate in 1960, who would probably be called a RINO today. I agree, Henry Sr. was a great man.

And as far as ol' Joe K. and Cpl. Schicklegruber, let's not get into the "Hitler was really a leftist because Nazis were socialists" argument. True socialism is an economic system (a cracked-brain one, IMHO), not a political philosophy and certainly not an inherently liberal or left-wing one. The Nazis were so far right they were off the map, which is why nothing gets me more PO'd than libs today tossing the N-word around about mainstream conservatives like the folks who post here. It shows their ignorance and hatred.

[steve50]

And if you look at the record, more people, for sure and without any question, saw Oswald shoot a gun out of the sixth-floor window of the Depository than saw all these phantom gunmen all over Dealey Plaza.

A lot of people who saw otherwise didn't live long enough to get on the record.