Earliest Stone Tools And Bones Site Discovered

Newswise ^ | 11-3-2003 | Southern Connecicut State University

[FastCoyote]

I am no zealot, but there are some things in physics that have given me pause and made me no atheist. That doesn't mean I believe in the mystical stuff, because science and religion at the root are the same thing - the search for the truth- and therefore must conform with each other. However, there is an argument that can be made for higher intelligence and purpose.

I assume you believe you exist. I assume you do not believe robots believe they exist - therefore you are a higher intelligence to a robot. You are also I assume a higher intelligence to insects etc. Therefore scientifically I have just shown that there is a hierarchy of intelligent beings. Now, if we are the highest intelligence in the universe, then we are gods, but I don't believe that. However, given a demonstrated hierarchy of intelligence, you must at least admit to the possibility that there is a penultimate intelligence that created us, just as we are god to the robots. I believe it can be demonstrated that the universe itself is a thinking creature. Therefore, I hope you will keep your mind a bit open.

[miloklancy]

Again I respect your right to disagree and your courtesy. But in truth you are no more or less equipped to speculate about the creation of the universe and whether it was a single entity or not than myself or anyone else. Science should not conform with religion, because they may be dealing with the same problem, but are going about it in two very different ways. Religion is based on faith. Science is based on empiricism. I believe I exist. I believe the solar system exists. I trust qualified authorities in the scientific community to explain the universe, because there is a standard of using empirical data. Religion is something you are either going to have faith in or not. It is a matter fo being convinced and placing your trust in a system of believes. Religion doesn't convince me, because my experience is that unlike Science it is riddled with countless inconsistencies. Science does convince me. Certainly Science has it's inconsistences, with respect to the known and unknown. But ultimately I find it far more convincing. What lies beyong the expanse of the universe? I don't know. Perhaps someday I will experience a revelation that allows me to have faith. But I make no illusions, such a revelation would have be on par with reinventing the wheel.

[chuckles]

..."You are ignorant of Science if you expect it to be static.".....

I don't expect it to be static, but I do expect it to be plausible and provable. These theories come forth as the "gospel", when thay already have anomalies that refute the "new theory". These are theories and should be presented as such. But the counter arguements should also show the weakness in the theory. One place is such and such million years old beacase of the type of rock it was found in, and the next is older and it's found in dirt less than 3 ft? One group says tools were used at this time or that and another says they were not deveolped enough. What's weird is if you disagree with the latest discovery, you are labeled a heratic, fired from the university, and banned from ever working again. Tolerant and open minded, huh. One woman discovered a South American civilization that was allegedly 25k old. They had iron tools, mathamatics, and large temples of stone. The university said that was imposible because it didn't fit their theory that North Americans came across the Berring Strait 10k years ago. She lost her funding, her tenure, and was unable to find work again. She was well respected and published before that. She had other scientists check her findings and they agreed with her. Didn't matter.

They pick and choose what they want, when they want. It's not science! It mostly has to do with funding and grants. They "discover" new things when the funding is coming due. For proof, check out the "Ozone Hole". They found the earth was "dying" about a month before funding dried up.

[Protagoras]

Hey, Fred and Barney! Maybe there is some dinosaurs to ride over on this thread.

[hosepipe]

[ Do you think reality has a source ... counter source ? ]

Spit it out... don't beat around the bushes...

[GladesGuru]

Scarengers who collected a most remarkable collection of kills. Even the weapons are known.

Look up Raymond Dart's "The Osteo-donto-keratic civilization of the Austropithicine" published in the Journal of Linguistics and Anthropology.

Since there is probably only the one copy hidden in the Richter Library at SunTan U, I'd suggest finding Robert Ardrey's African Genesis. The evidence is rather striking - man has been striking tasty critters on the head with clubs for at least 2.5 million years. And some of those bonked were carnivores, too.

Carnivore meets top carnivore - sort of sums it up, doesn't it?

[SunkenCiv]

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[tet68]

Thank you Jim, Blam takes a lot of time an effort to post these threads.
tet.

[WestVirginiaRebel]

Wilma was always complaining about Fred leaving his tools lying around : )

[timer]

Which came first : toolmaking or language? Men make tools, women yak... Which profession was first practiced : architecture or prostitution? Oh, and on your graph, where are the liberals?