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1 posted on 11/04/2003 12:16:49 PM PST by veronica
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[...] or grown up in the country as first- or second-generation immigrants.

I realize that this isn't the only problem but perhaps not calling people born in Norway "second-generation immigrants" might help.

2 posted on 11/04/2003 12:21:18 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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What's the "over-under" on Erna's life expectancy?
3 posted on 11/04/2003 12:21:18 PM PST by rube
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Funny, I want Islam gone.
4 posted on 11/04/2003 12:21:39 PM PST by journey7873
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You could always treat Muslims the way non-Muslims are treated in Islamic societies:

Bibles are illegal
Churches are illegal
Death sentence for anyone who converts
Illegal to hand out non-Muslim religious texts
etc.

You know, treat them like they are the infidel...
5 posted on 11/04/2003 12:23:28 PM PST by 2banana
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hmmmm...those wacky Norwegians may be on to something...

7 posted on 11/04/2003 12:27:22 PM PST by meowmeow (Freepin' Wireless!)
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Cabinet Minister Erna Solberg is calling on Muslims to better integrate into Norwegian society declare a fatwa against her for insulting Islam..
8 posted on 11/04/2003 12:28:42 PM PST by CaptRon
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Solberg has hit the nail on the head! Solberg insists that THEY integrate into Western culture.

Our sources in Christian circles say that radical Islamists are threatening to destroy Western Civilization because of its influence on their culture. They see the existence of the West as a direct assault on their way of life.

Sadly, Islamists are partially correct. Western influence WILL alter their culture. They cringe at Western values which allow sexually explicit behavior, lack of honor, and practices such as abortion. On the other hand, they are blind to the moral problems of their own culture, such as human slavery and state sanctioned murder.
9 posted on 11/04/2003 12:28:54 PM PST by the_Watchman
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Muslims don't "understand" the criticism of their seeming inability to embrace the non-Islam culture in which they have chosen to live. Of course not. That would mean that somewhere outside themselves, there are people who live good wholesome lives, and are NOT Muslim. And because good lives can be lived without becoming a Muslim, there is no compelling need to demand that the entire world convert to Islam. Christianity, and Protestant Christianity at that, does have many redeeming social qualities, enough to hold the respect of honest Muslims. Or ought to.
10 posted on 11/04/2003 12:36:53 PM PST by alloysteel
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"They have to get more education, which they should get here in Europe," she continued. "It's especially important that immigrants learn what it means to live in a feminist society."

Norway's a 'feminist' culture!? What does that mean?

11 posted on 11/04/2003 12:39:41 PM PST by nosofar
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Muslims living in Norway must accept that they're a minority in a progressive, egalitarian-oriented society,

Why? If they keep breeding like rabbits, they eventually won't be.

13 posted on 11/04/2003 12:46:32 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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I'm of two minds about this. On one hand, I'm encouraged that some people - even in Europe - are beginning to see the threat posed by Islamic immigration and the lack of assimilation into Western society. On the other hand, there is a civil rights issue here, and I think there's a danger that the government will go too far in protecting its legitimate interests. And I'm not sure where the middle ground ends and the extremes begin.
15 posted on 11/04/2003 12:49:57 PM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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"Cabinet Minister Erna Solberg is calling on Muslims to better integrate into Norwegian society."

And what if they don't, Erna???

"Islam in Europe must function differently than it does in Islamic countries."

Says who???

And anyway, in a few years the European countries will be Islamic countries! Thought about that???

"The Norwegian Islamic community must make more progress, and see what's happening in other European countries"

Uh...Erna...in other European countries, the Muslims are taking over--and they have no intention of "functioning differently".

"Solberg earlier this year was the target of death threats by a disgruntled Muslim"

Wake up and face reality, Erna. It's later--and worse--than you think.

23 posted on 11/04/2003 1:44:03 PM PST by Savage Beast (The meaning of the California Revolution: The socioeconomic fabric is not indestructable.)
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