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To: Deep_6
You are wasting your time. These people know what they are talking about and nobody and nothing is going to change their views. This is not about the law, or science or logic or fact. It is about their beliefs and what they have been told to think by their Sunday schools and pastors. The insults and invective has begun but I can just about guarantee you have yet to see the faithful's most toxic venom.
81 posted on 11/03/2003 8:52:23 PM PST by US admirer
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To: US admirer
The insults and invective has begun but I can just about guarantee you have yet to see the faithful's most toxic venom.

There can be no greater invective or toxic venom than 'mercy killing' of the disabled.

84 posted on 11/03/2003 9:02:07 PM PST by Petronski (Living life in a minor key.)
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To: US admirer
This is not about the law, or science or logic or fact. It is about their beliefs and what they have been told to think by their Sunday schools and pastors.

It has become a circus of kookery, hasn't it?

I have a living will not only to spare my family the burden of making the decision to terminate life support, but also to eliminate any risk my case might become a cause celebre of someone's religious agenda.

85 posted on 11/03/2003 9:02:08 PM PST by WackyKat
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To: US admirer
My belief in LIFE isn't what a pastor told me!!!
It is my basic tenet, (do you even know what a tenet is?)having grown up in a more moral age for society.
How dare you offend the people here in a discussion board by criticizing their religion, when your statement about us knowing only what our religion "tells us"!!!
I can't imagine anyone whith such an ignorant attitude.
127 posted on 11/04/2003 12:08:44 AM PST by oreolady (Have you reviewed your living will lately?)
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To: US admirer
From the way Terri has been kept in her room in later years, one might conclude that the most toxic venom is -- Terri unveiled. The real Terri. In other words, the facts. AAARGH!!

She's not in a coma. She is not in persistent vegetative state. Heck, she has fewer tubes than Christopher Reeve. She used to have a treatment plan, what has happened to that therapy?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1011460/posts?page=569#569 -- PDF

Physical Examination -- 6 - 27 - 90

*patient is awake, eyes are open
*easily startled to her name or when bedrail fell down
*she does give eye contact to family members
*she will close her eyes to any threatening response around her face and blink appropriately
*tracking is inconsistent
*no verbal output during this exam but it has been reported by husband and other family members and therapists over at College Harbor.

Treatment Plan Review from Mediplex rehab, Bradenton, 1 - 29 - 91

Cognitive/Communication: *no significant changes.
*Vocalizing when prone in P.T. [physical therapy]
*Occasionally will say "STOP" to nursing during procedures.
*to TR [recreation?] groups. More relaxed to therapists voice, touch (habituation)

Some people actually have jobs working with people like Terri. Imagine that! We can't know if there will be improvement or not, or many years (as the story posted above) it might take; we do know there are plenty of stories like the one posted above and elsewhere.

Terri has a mother who wants to take her home. She has a husband who wants to get on with his life. What's so hard about this? It doesn't even take a Solomon.

226 posted on 11/04/2003 2:24:58 PM PST by cyn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: US admirer
It is about their beliefs and what they have been told to think by their Sunday schools and pastors.

Sort of. We also had some help from our parents. Most of us actually believe in [GASP] God too.

Uh, have you ever read the Constituttion of the United States Of America?

There is a line in there that reads, "LIFE, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness."

269 posted on 11/04/2003 7:01:45 PM PST by Budge ( <>< .)
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