Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles

NO GRILLS in the basement or safe room, it robs the air of something and you get carbon monoxide poisoning (see what remembering half of the info gets you? LOL)

Never burn charcoal in the house, a man in California used his BBQ last year to kill about 5 kids, they said it was murder.

If you are going to have a generator running (outdoors) you could use a Rainbow vacuum, it will recirculate the air, or any number of machines are sold for the purpose.

Possibly a wet-dry shop vacuums would work.

But I wonder about a bellows that you could pump by hand, like the ones the blacksmiths used to get air to the fire and make it burn hotter.

For info on the old tools, check out the reenactment groups, there are several wonderful sites that will tell you how to chip an arrow, make a canoe or build bellows.

If there are several people in the room, maybe a bellows blowing air into aquarium charcoal or a filter would work.

It might help clean the air and give the folks a way to fill their time while they wait for the next step.

Do you know how an evaporative cooler works? It has a drum with ridges an inch or so high and the pulley to the motor makes it turn and it blows air into the room.

It could be rigged to a bike frame or even a crank, like we used to use on cars and tractors to turn over the motor. I would like the bike frame, better than by hand.

I can hear Bill saying "ANOTHER OF YOUR 15 MINUTE PROJECTS, THAT WILL TAKE ME DAYS TO DO!!!!!" before he started the project.

Any vents to the room, would allow in the bad air also, so the escaping air must go out and not back in.

Stock your room with canned food, that needs no cooking, what you eat at a time like this will be rationed, as it may be days or weeks before you get out.

The first Mine Inspector in the State of Arizona, came here in 1910, by train to one of the mining areas, a young man, new degree, engaged to the daughter of a rich man who was interested in buying a mine that 2 miners had for sale.

The went by horse and wagon to the camp, ate a lunch of canned beans and went in the tunnel. His job to take samples of the ore, which he did.

Then he saw a seam of ore over head and quickly started hammering to get a sample, the miners were yelling at him, and he didn't understand.

The tunnel caved in, the miners on the outside, him on the inside. The tunnel was blocked by the fallen rock.

He was scared and then he recalled that the Welsh miners had more than once kept alive by eating the candles they carried for their miner's lamps, in those days made of sheep or beef tallow.

So he dug and rested and was starving, he felt that he could stay alive if he rationed the candles to one per day.

When he woke up, he ate a candle and started the digging and sleeping and digging. When he had just eaten the last candle, the miners managed to break through and he escaped.

He ran to the camp fire and found more cans of beans on the fire (so he thought) and ate them quickly, mumbling that he was starving as candles just don't fill you up.

The miner's were very confused by all this and finally convinced him that he had not been in the tunnel for 4 days, but rather about 4 hours.

He tells the story himself, in the second book he wrote, Charles Durning as my memory serves me, I have a copy of it.

The first time I read it, I started laughing so loud at his stories, while reading in bed that I woke Bill up, who thought someone was attacking me. Guess that I was lucky that I didn't get shot, we never, woke Bill up without a good reason, as he would come up ready to protect the family.

Being in your safe room for a few hours will feel like days.

Ruth

Like I've said before.

These guys will lose all credibility if nothing happens by Feb. 4.

They have been warning us for over two months now.

Inaction on their part would indicate that they are indeed dead.

We've got a little over 3 weeks to go.

We will soon know if they are the impotent bastards that we all wish them to be.

Hubal, the moon god of the Kaba:

What is quite certain is that the Pagan Arabs in Mecca worshipped a moon god called Hubal at the Kabah. Hubal was the Lord of the Kabah, being the highest ranking god of the 360 gods worshipped in the Kabah.

What's Hubal got to do with US?

Hubal

An oracular deity whose statue -- in human form and made of red carneol -- stood in the Ka'ba until Muhammad destroyed in in 8 AH/630 CE. Until that moment, it had received numerous offerings from pilgrims. He gave oracles through seven arrows. Hubal was the tutelary deity of Mecca (Koran 17:83).

News to me. I had always thought that Freemasons were exclusively Christian.

Search the 'net for "positive air pressure" (or something like it).

Also, you can goto americansaferoom.com..they have systems for about a grand that can help. I am seriously thinking of building a concrete-enclosed room in my basement (concrete helps block damaging radiation) and using one of these contraptions for air purification (they have NBC filters as well).

It was posted on this website <"ref http://akhbar.khayma.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Web_Linksa">&file=index&l_op=viewlink&cid=6
around Jan 1st or 2nd.

No not this site, the Timebomb 2000 site that was linked.

The thread about Russia and China taking us over made me crap! Very Scary indeed!

Well, don't really know anything about timebomb2000..yesterday was the first time I read it.

BUT..I agree..the theory about Russia being behind all of the AQ attacks (including 9/11) was one of THE most frightening things I've ever read. For if the conclusion is true - there will BE no more America.

Incidentally - and this is important, "EOM" said to me one day on the other board when I told him we would nuke Iran and any other "axis of evil" or rogue states sponsoring terrorism if we were hit with WMD something like "and Russia and China will finish you off".

At the time, I thought this was hubris and highly unlikely. After all, why would Russia and China want to get into the fight?

Now I know. And it scares me absolutely to death.

Methinks there is more to this than we are seeing.

It VERY WELL could be Russia moving the chess pieces.

Thankseverso. :)

Oh. :)

Who is EOM?

Where is that link about China and Russia? I must have missed that one. I feel up to scaring myself silly, I guess.

I am thinking the relationship to Hubal is the destruction.I guess they are saying we will destroy you, as Muhammad destroyed Hubal.Just a guess though.

Among Catholic beliefs, from the Miracle at Fatima (Virgin Mary's apparitions in Portugal in 1917) is the admonition to pray for the conversion of Russia. We still need to pay attention to that message I think.

Worth repeating:

My Warning to the American People

I would like to say one more time, that the attack
that we are all expecting was due to occur in
November, and we were a hairs bredth away from having
are lives thrown into disorder. The reasoning for the
delay of the attack is not necessarily known. The
terrorists alluded to a reasoning such as the Magic
pulled by Bush and his Black House Wizards. One must
realize that this year is like no other. This Ramadan
with the lunar and solar eclipses will not occur for
another 1000 years. This is paramount to this Islamic
cause for the Qurran states that when Ramadan has the
Lunar and Solar eclipse it is a sign that the Imam
Mahdi is among the humans. The Imam Mahdi is due to
bring about the apocalypse, he is a normal man until
the year 1424 with the special Ramdan, calling him to
make his appearance. It is known that many specualte
that Bin Laden thinks that he is the Imam Mahdi. The
Qurran states that the Imam will walk the Earth as a
man, but that his enemies will never be able to find
him no matter how hard they try. A lot of this fits
exactly in with what we have experienced since 9/11.
The major attack and the coming of the Imam Mahdi
should have happened during Ramdan, but did not, after
all this is not the terrorists schedule, but Allahs.
Nevertheless, since they have publicly stated numerous
times that they will strike by Feb. 2, they must! They
have no choice, but to strike or face the devastating
moral and confidance loss that failing to complete
such an out right boastfull deed would include. There
is also the point that Bin laden said he saw himself
being martyred in the belly of the eagle in 2003, the
actual statement said this year, however, to Muslims
the year was 1424, which has not ended yet (ends Feb.
21). He may be martyred not in the traditional sense,
but much more in the sense that he will cease to Bin
Laden the man and become the immortal servant of Allah
the Imam Mahdi! Everything that I have laid out is
very pertinent and i am astounded that it was not
mentioned immediately after 9/11 that the Islamic year
1424 would be the beginning of the most treacherous
time period for Earth that we have ever experienced.
There is no rational that will stop religious zealots
from following through. So as time ticks slowly by I
too make the statement that we must prepare, the
evidence is a mountain against the US, we will be
attacked in 1424 on our homeland. Mark my word I would
put life on the line for that statement. i have
studied Islam, Jihad, Terrorism, Pschology, and the
Middle East to great lengths. The risks of non-action
by them in the year 1424 our simply unspeakable. They
will attack and it is impossible that we can stop them
all. The time draws ever nearer, and whether or not
EOM is real is of absolutely no difference for it is a
duty to confuse the infidels and decieve them, that is
what he has done, regadless of the exact date of hour
which the blood shall be spilt, one must realize that
the year is now! 1424!

Let,

I missed it too. If Jstolzen replies, can you let me know?

I can't find it by doing a search on FR, but I believe Russia and China have a HUGE hand in all of the events now occurring.

-Zot

" I did ask my surgeon as I came to if we were operating on backup power and/or had there been a terrorist attack -= they all laughed at me."

Oh boy, I bet that got under their skin,lol! Glad to see you're doing fine.

Try these. I am not sure if this is what he is talking about, but scary stuff:

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?s=258450776a0a9a7b570067269adec0e9&threadid=87517&highlight=nuke

http://www.jrnyquist.com/

perhaps. but its probably just, if not more, likely that nothing happens now, and then sometime in June for example, some incident with an aircraft occurs. where were the warnings for Richard Reid's attempt for example?