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To: Qwinn
.would be a good trick if it were true, since about half of the German army, like the German population, would have been catholic."

Aaaah I see, so now the agitprop is Catholics -were- Nazis. Uh huh. Hitler too!

Yes, I believe Hitler was a nazi.

Reciting the novena over and over as they gassed Jews, they were.

No, but probably during their mass absolutions afterwards, administered by catholic SS priests.

No evidence actually required on that one.

Actually, we have numerous pictures of priests in SS camps granting absolution, giving nazi salutes, and attending to military functions in their official robes. To no one's great surprise.

I see the picture of Hitler praying posted all over anti-Pius sites to prove it... the source of the picture? Why, Hitler's own photo-op propaganda, of course!

Uh huh. And why is it, do you suppose, that the nazi's felt that this would make good propaganda?

The undisputed, and totally unsurprising facts are as follows: polls of the german population before and after WWII made about half of the german population to be practicing catholic, and most of the rest lutheran.--the only other group of historically rabid christian jew-haters that outshone the catholics in their venom. For a really good time, try Martin Luther on the subject of jews.

Do you think they all stopped going to mass while Hitler was in power? If you do, you don't know much about catholics.

63 posted on 11/03/2003 4:10:34 PM PST by donh (1)
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To: donh
Still waiting for you to rail against the Red Cross for their silence, despite their legal duty to "speak out".

Qwinn
64 posted on 11/03/2003 4:12:47 PM PST by Qwinn
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To: donh
"Actually, we have numerous pictures of priests in SS camps granting absolution, giving nazi salutes, and attending to military functions in their official robes. To no one's great surprise."

Yes, Hitler would never stoop so low as to put his soldiers in the dress of a Bishop and take pictures. He is in fact the source of those pictures - do you deny this?

I'm not saying there couldn't have been individual priests who broke with the public Church stand and sided with Hitler, quite possibly for fear of their lives. But if there were, they were ignoring the express orders of the Church when they did so. That does not indict Catholics as a whole.

Meanwhile, all the actual Catholic printing presses that were printing scathing attacks on Hitler and racism were shut down. This is a fact reported by the New York Times. Since the Catholics were whole-hog for the Nazis as you suggest, why would these be printed? Why were encyclicals from the Pope being dropped by the Allies into Germany?

Those Catholics that were anti-Semitic did so because they blamed the sins of a handful of Jews on -all- the Jews. Those Catholics are rightly condemned. What's so freaking -sad- though is how those doing the condemning are doing exactly the same thing - blaming -all- Catholics for the sins of the few.

They practice what they condemn. Their mindset is indistinguishable from those they rail against.

Qwinn
66 posted on 11/03/2003 4:21:05 PM PST by Qwinn
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