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"Actually, we have numerous pictures of priests in SS camps granting absolution, giving nazi salutes, and attending to military functions in their official robes. To no one's great surprise."

Yes, Hitler would never stoop so low as to put his soldiers in the dress of a Bishop and take pictures. He is in fact the source of those pictures - do you deny this?

I'm not saying there couldn't have been individual priests who broke with the public Church stand and sided with Hitler, quite possibly for fear of their lives. But if there were, they were ignoring the express orders of the Church when they did so. That does not indict Catholics as a whole.

Meanwhile, all the actual Catholic printing presses that were printing scathing attacks on Hitler and racism were shut down. This is a fact reported by the New York Times. Since the Catholics were whole-hog for the Nazis as you suggest, why would these be printed? Why were encyclicals from the Pope being dropped by the Allies into Germany?

Those Catholics that were anti-Semitic did so because they blamed the sins of a handful of Jews on -all- the Jews. Those Catholics are rightly condemned. What's so freaking -sad- though is how those doing the condemning are doing exactly the same thing - blaming -all- Catholics for the sins of the few.

They practice what they condemn. Their mindset is indistinguishable from those they rail against.

Qwinn

Yes, Hitler would never stoop so low as to put his soldiers in the dress of a Bishop and take pictures. He is in fact the source of those pictures - do you deny this?

That's a pitiful argument. Every western army has priests accompanying their troops. What suggests to you that Germany, the heart northern european Catholicism for 400 years, would be any different?

I'm not saying there couldn't have been individual priests who broke with the public Church stand and sided with Hitler, quite possibly for fear of their lives. But if there were, they were ignoring the express orders of the Church when they did so. That does not indict Catholics as a whole.

You will not find a record of catholic priests being forbidden to give sacrament to the SS. Given that they were not excommunicated, that would have been a pretty unlikely thing for the catholic church to have ordered. That would have also been a fairly blatant violation of the accords signed by Pius XII, now wouldn't it?

Meanwhile, all the actual Catholic printing presses that were printing scathing attacks on Hitler and racism were shut down.

Church presses, and not ALL catholic presses, if you are referring to the previously cited incident.

This is a fact reported by the New York Times. Since the Catholics were whole-hog for the Nazis as you suggest,

I have not suggested this. But I have suggested that many catholics hated jews, and were egged on by church doctrine, none of which, is not particularly at issue amongst historians.

Those Catholics that were anti-Semitic did so because they blamed the sins of a handful of Jews on -all- the Jews. Those Catholics are rightly condemned. What's so freaking -sad- though is how those doing the condemning are doing exactly the same thing - blaming -all- Catholics for the sins of the few.

I have not blamed ALL christians. I have, rightly, blamed christian doctrine for much of the harm that has befallen the jews at the hands of incensed christians over the last 1400 years, including during the holocaust.

They practice what they condemn. Their mindset is indistinguishable from those they rail against.

My mindset is distinguisable from mass murderers and those that abet them.