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To: conservonator
Since you have such a profound knowledge of Catholic canon law, you should be able to provide an explanation as to why an "official" pronouncement of excommunication would have been redundant. If you need help go here and here.

Catholic conference the excommunicated the Nazi's? Is this what your cite is referring to?:

the Fulda conference of Catholic Bishops voted that no one wearing a swastika could receive communion.

Second, in 1933, perhaps the most prominent German Catholic who was not ordained, Franz von Papen, wangled Hitler's appointment as Chancellor. 

Third, shortly afterward, the Fulda conference reversed itself. From then on, throughout the Holocaust, Catholics wearing swastikas (not a contradiction, after all) were welcome at the communion rail.

http://amywelborn.typepad.com/openbook/2003/10/church_and_the_.html

Oh, and by the way, your own first cite says that no one knows if Hitler was formally excommunicated or not.

Are you just encapable of reading what I write to you, or are you just too blinded by the mad rush to defend the church to think about what's being said? Hitler's catholocism or lack thereof, which remains undemonstrated (I've matched anybody posting here, quote for quote, on the question of Hitler's catholicism), has little effect on my argument.

As to the rest of your comments: I'm not interested in the opinion of someone who cant wrap his mind around the objective reality that Hitler was not a Catholic, much less a Christian.

Uh huh. I see that your lack of interest doesn't prevent you from searching the internet for marginally supportive cites in order to find an excuse to get in one more rude crack.

235 posted on 11/07/2003 1:15:43 PM PST by donh (1)
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To: donh
Your link and quote are from some leftist on a chat board who does not source his "facts". Is that the best you can do?

Try this. It’s sourced. And just in case the prospect of facing sourced information scars you, I’ll post a taste

For example, the New York Times reported that Bishop Fidel Garcia y Martinez, Bishop of Calahorra in Spain, condemned Nazi propaganda and racism in a pastoral letter published in February, 1942, based on Mit Brennender Sorge of Pope Pius XI. In his pastoral letter, the bishop included texts by the German Catholic Bishops in their 1941 pastoral letter from Fulda as well as sections from the pastoral letter by the Catholic bishops of the Netherlands. Circulation of all these works, the Times pointed out, was forbidden in Germany. (N.Y. Times, May 24, 1942, p.4, 1-2)

The German Catholic bishops issued a second pastoral letter on March 22, 1942, the first having been published in the autumn of 1941. Both were formal protests against policies of the Nazi regime, and were read publicly in every Catholic pulpit throughout Germany. The first was a general condemnation of Nazi doctrines. The second, read on Passion Sunday, protested vehemently against Hitler’s then new policies of interfering in Church affairs and education, and strongly protested against “all violations of personal freedom,” against the killing of insane persons and the proposal to kill incurables, against unjust seizure of individuals and of property. (N.Y. Times, June 7, 1942, p. 12, 1-5)

The only reason I continue to entertain this discussion is not for your edification, you’re lost, but for those lurking.

255 posted on 11/07/2003 2:23:29 PM PST by conservonator
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