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To: donh
Your link and quote are from some leftist on a chat board who does not source his "facts". Is that the best you can do?

Try this. It’s sourced. And just in case the prospect of facing sourced information scars you, I’ll post a taste

For example, the New York Times reported that Bishop Fidel Garcia y Martinez, Bishop of Calahorra in Spain, condemned Nazi propaganda and racism in a pastoral letter published in February, 1942, based on Mit Brennender Sorge of Pope Pius XI. In his pastoral letter, the bishop included texts by the German Catholic Bishops in their 1941 pastoral letter from Fulda as well as sections from the pastoral letter by the Catholic bishops of the Netherlands. Circulation of all these works, the Times pointed out, was forbidden in Germany. (N.Y. Times, May 24, 1942, p.4, 1-2)

The German Catholic bishops issued a second pastoral letter on March 22, 1942, the first having been published in the autumn of 1941. Both were formal protests against policies of the Nazi regime, and were read publicly in every Catholic pulpit throughout Germany. The first was a general condemnation of Nazi doctrines. The second, read on Passion Sunday, protested vehemently against Hitler’s then new policies of interfering in Church affairs and education, and strongly protested against “all violations of personal freedom,” against the killing of insane persons and the proposal to kill incurables, against unjust seizure of individuals and of property. (N.Y. Times, June 7, 1942, p. 12, 1-5)

The only reason I continue to entertain this discussion is not for your edification, you’re lost, but for those lurking.

255 posted on 11/07/2003 2:23:29 PM PST by conservonator
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To: conservonator
For example, the New York Times reported that Bishop Fidel Garcia y Martinez, Bishop of Calahorra in Spain, condemned Nazi propaganda and racism in a pastoral letter published in February, 1942, based on Mit Brennender Sorge

By xmas, 1942, most of the German Jews were ash. PIUS himself spoke up with the Official Voice in xmas 1942--with the Allies upcoming victory plain to see. And this is your evidence--a pastoral letter that's too little, too late? BFD.

258 posted on 11/07/2003 2:32:03 PM PST by donh
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To: conservonator
Your link and quote are from some leftist on a chat board who does not source his "facts".

Oh, and the "Catholic League" has no irons in the fire?

Is that the best you can do?

No, as a matter of fact, it's not. It's just what I could do quick. Since I've cited hundreds of primary sources on this thread, including the bible, the doctrine of salvation through christ, a mass of Hitler quotes from speeches, and nazi posters, and first person narratives, I'll take this feeble thrust with a grain of salt.

260 posted on 11/07/2003 2:38:19 PM PST by donh
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To: conservonator
The only reason I continue to entertain this discussion is not for your edification, you’re lost, but for those lurking.

Well said.

267 posted on 11/07/2003 5:23:42 PM PST by Barnacle (Navigating the treacherous waters of a liberal culture)
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