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To: presidio9
No he asked you to provide a list of all of the Catholic death commanders, and he warned you not to include Hoess, because the man renounced Catholicism (note: a "lapsed Catholic" is one who stops going to Mass, not one who denies the religion and embraces evil). Your failure to do so speaks volumes for your ability to do anymore to google radical Anti-Catholic websites and state as fact the garbage you find there.

Anti-catholic web sites, eh? You mean like the vatican? Who do you think published the "we remember" document? Since you asked, Let's start the documentation: Let's begin with the church handing birth and death records over: here's Edith Stein, a catholic saint, on the subject:

http://www.anti-racism.supanet.com/rac/stein.htm

An answer to your question:

http://www.angelraybooks.com/books/schiff/0011sc.htm

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/imt/pohl/indict4.htm

http://lastexpression.northwestern.edu/essays/friedland.pdf

speeches by Hitler envoking christian sentiment in support of the jewish solution:

http://jews-for-allah.org/messianic-jews/christianhistorywithjews/speeches.htm

http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/quotes_hitler.html

Referring to a point about excommunication:

from the Catholic Encyclopedia:

Excommunication Latæ Sententiæ:


This doesn't mean what you think it means. Joining a group that has a blanket excommunication against all it's members is an example of Excommunication Latæ Sententiæ. Here is a fragment of an article on excommunication in the Catholic Encyclopedia: 

(b) Excommunications Simply Reserved to the Pope 

Before enumerating those it intends to retain, the Constitution "Apostolicæ Sedis" pronounces a first excommunication of this kind against "those who presume to absolve, without the requisite faculties and under any pretext whatsoever, from excommunications that are specially reserved". This article is directed against those who dare to absolve in bad faith or rashly; a well-founded doubt, however, and even gross ignorance may be pleaded as excuses. Then follow seventeen excommunications simply reserved, declared against the following persons: 

(1) "Those who either publicly or privately teach or defend propositions condemned by the Holy See under pain of excommunication latæ sententiæ; likewise those who teach or maintain as lawful the practice of asking the penitent the name of his or her accomplice, a practice condemned by Benedict XIV in his Constitutions 'Suprema' (7 July, 1745), 'Ubi primum' (2 July, 1746), and 'Ad eradicandam' (28 Sept., 1746)." This article contains two distinct parts. In the first it is not question of all propositions condemned by popes or councils in terms less condemnatory (e.g. rash, offensive, etc.) than the specific stigma heretical (to defend heretical propositions being heresy itself and already declared a chief cause of excommunication, see above), but only those which the popes have specifically forbidden to be maintained under pain of excommunication latæ sententiæ. These propositions are: 
(a) the forty-one errors of Luther condemned by Leo X, 16 May, 1520; 
(b) the seventy-nine theses of Michael Baius condemned 1 Oct., 1567, 29 Jan., 1579, and 16 March, 1641; 


... 

(1) and finally the sixty-five Modernistic propositions condemned by decree of the Holy Office, 3 July, 1907, according to the Motu Proprio of Pius X, 19 November, 1907.

a brief history: http://www.yad-vashem.org.il/download/education/units/crystal_1.pdf

a current update: http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/01/02/Gellately.html

Let's just take a small stroll through the archives ourselves and see what we think of the theory that the genocide of 6 million jews was deeply hidden from view:

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4038/pic50.htm

http://www.bxscience.edu/organizations/holocaust/center/posters/poster01.jpg

http://www.bxscience.edu/organizations/holocaust/center/posters/poster03.jpg

http://www.bxscience.edu/organizations/holocaust/center/posters/poster08.jpg

http://www.bxscience.edu/organizations/holocaust/center/posters/poster13.jpg

http://www.bxscience.edu/organizations/holocaust/center/posters/poster14.jpg

http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg00/pg5/pg00531.html

http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg00/pg5/pg00524.html

http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg00/pg5/pg00506.html

http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg3/pg04336.html

http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg41/pg8/pg41856.html

http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg17/pg8/pg17840.html

http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg02/pg0/pg02019.html

http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg33/pg1/pg33166.html

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?ModuleId=10005680
http://www.adl.org/children_holocaust/about_nazi_law.asp

http://www.iht.com/articles/95911.html

http://www.kdhs.org.uk/history/a/as_unit6/goebbels.htm

If you'd like to aquaint yourself with the shear mass of anti-jewish sentiment enshrined in overt nazi policy, this reading list might help:

http://www.chgs.umn.edu/Educational_Resources/Curriculum/Broken_Threads/Resources/resources.html

150 posted on 11/06/2003 11:40:16 AM PST by donh (1)
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To: donh
LOL, I asked you to cite your sources for your ridiculous allegations of "kidnapping of the children of forced
converts to christianity went on until almost the end of the 1800s"

by the Catholic Church and you gave me a list of Anti-Christian websites. I checked out the first one out of vauge interest (Check my profile dude, I have
but ONE link -have had it for years).

Your link comes from a website called Christianity The Christian Jew and Religious Discrimination
(secretly it burns you up when one of yours sees the Light. That's what this is all about, isn't it. The website proports that Saint Edith Stein, my favorite saints
BTW, may have been sent to the concentration camps because the church collaborated with the Nazis and named
all members of the Clergy who were of Jewish descent. The site's reasoning? Stein was no longer a member of the Jewish community, so how could the
Nazis have known?

Are you that stupid that you take garbage like this on face value? Hello? Stein? The woman had a Jewish last name and she was public about her conversion.
Most converts in the clergy are very public about their former lives and their conversion. Saint Edith Stein was a very public figure who lectured and
published extensively. She was very outspoken about the Nazis (and for good reason). If you knew anything about the Catholic Church you might know this.

Instead you choose to embrace radicals who are filled with hate. Good for you I guess.

152 posted on 11/06/2003 11:56:46 AM PST by presidio9 (a new birth of Freedom)
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