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To: donh
The rules of this website make a distinction between religeous affiliation and race-&-ethnicity.

Fair enough. If Jews can change their vantage point on every discussion from one of enthnicity to one of religion as it suits the argument, I hereby declare that all Catholics are also subject to the Holy See, which is, in fact, a nation. Therefore any attack on Catholicism is also an attack on the Catholic "race" as it were. Wait, I have a better idea, why don't we just treat race and ethnicity as equals the way good liberals say the Constitution intended? It is much less complicated and confusing.

Your reliance on events that happend hundreds of years ago as an indication of the policies of the Catholic Church are no better than your insistence that there is Anti-Catholic sentiment in the Gospel. Even if things were interpreted that way at one time, they aren't none now, so why waste the energy?

142 posted on 11/06/2003 10:02:36 AM PST by presidio9 (a new birth of Freedom)
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To: presidio9
Fair enough. If Jews can change their vantage point on every discussion from one of enthnicity to one of religion as it suits the argument,

Kindly indicate where I have done so.

I hereby declare that all Catholics are also subject to the Holy See, which is, in fact, a nation. Therefore any attack on Catholicism is also an attack on the Catholic "race" as it were.

Well, interesting, but no cigar. Nationhood does not automatically endow you with ethnicity, even if you hold your breath until you turn blue.

Your reliance on events that happend hundreds of years ago as an indication of the policies of the Catholic Church

Rabid Anti-jewish policies, including the kidnapping of the children of forced converts to christianity went on until almost the end of the 1800s. Virulent anti-jewish tracts were still being produced by the Holy See's official publication newspapers well into the 20th century. Several of the most virulent encyclicals against jews had not been repudiated until well into the 20th century--well past the Holocaust, in fact. The "We Remember" document was not published until the end of the 20th century.

are no better than your insistence that there is Anti-Catholic sentiment in the Gospel.

Mine, and every reputable historians, including those of the Catholic church, and anyone who can read what is written, of course.

Even if things were interpreted that way at one time,

umm...so, is it or isn't it?

they aren't none now, so why waste the energy?

uh...because what happened once can happen again?

147 posted on 11/06/2003 10:48:01 AM PST by donh (1)
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