Fifteen die as US helicopter downed

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[pierrem15]

What's your take on the big demo against reforms in Berlin?

The recent flap about the Germans removed from eastern Europe after WWII makes me uneasy. On the one hand, I sympathize, and I have even met some of them here in Chicago. They are surely due some respect for their suffering, but it is very difficult to do so without raising a lot of fear among the Poles and Czechs. For them, the removals are considered a legitimate act of self-defense against possible German revanchism, although they recognize and deplore the often brutal way in which it was done. The Poles have even convicted, I believe, some Communist camp commanders for brutality against the German deportees.

In any case, my point is that I much prefer a strong and confident Germany that doesn't wallow in victimhood, and to me, such wallowing strikes me as Undeutsch.

PS-- My wife and I will be in Berlin around Christmas. After having been verbally attacked in a small Kneipe as a Welsher (due to my dark hair and eyes) the last time I was in Berlin, what kind of atmosphere can I look forward to as an American now? It's not a rhetorical question- my wife thinks I'm making too much of one drunken oaf in a bar.

[At _War_With_Liberals]

"If we don´t take care, our society and economy are going down. "

There you go again. On a thread about the murder of 15 troops, you spew DNC talking points. Couldn't help yourself, huh?

What do you mean "WE"??

Your tag is German, your homepage is all about Germany, and your flag is (surprise) that of Germany.

Knock off the 'we' crap. You have chosen your side by your words and actions.

[swheats]

The families, that's the hard part. The emptiness they will experience. As I said before:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1013170/posts?page=171#171

[Right_in_Virginia]

This PC crap is binding our military like nothing else.

How did PC cause this attack on our soldiers?

[Michael81Dus]

LOL, you´ve misunderstood me. Cool down. I was referring to the German economy, not to the American.

I´ve chosen my side on the war on terrorism and Op Iraqi Freedom: the US side. Therefore, it´s possible that I sometimes refer to "we" as the US side, even though I´m not a US citizen. Forgive me.

[Age of Reason]

"New Republic senior editor Lawrence Kaplan recently wrote on 'America’s near-invisible wounded.' Bob speaks with Kaplan about covering the wounded and why the media seem to be steering clear."

Audio of interview found here: http://www.wnyc.org/onthemedia/

[jimbo123]

Inside every German is a Nazi dying to come out, no?

[Michael81Dus]

Pardon?

[Lessismore]

Do the wounded ever die anymore? Seems I never hear the wounded being added to the number killed on the news reports.

The number killed started at 12, and has now increased to 15. So either some wounded died or there was just a better accounting.

However, military medicine has improved to the point where wounded are much less likely to die than in previous wars. The ratio of wounded to killed is reportedly 7 to 1, whereas 2 to 1 would have been more typical earlier.

[At _War_With_Liberals]

Sorry. I am really worked up about 17 dead today.

[Michael81Dus]

No offense taken. I perfectly understand your hatred on these cowardly pieces of $#!t.

[Mudboy Slim]

Sad day in the War Between Good and Evil...MUD

[Levante]

PC didn't CAUSE the attack.

PC is binding our military. It's apparent that we didn't destroy enough of these terrorists and killers. Why are we not surrounding Tikrit and Fallujah and conducting a huge sweep to find weapons these people are using to kill our troops? Why is LTC West being seen by many as a criminal, by threatening a thug who had knowledge that, if properly used, would prevent an ambush that would lead to yet more unnecessary American deaths. This is war. It doesn't seem like we're treating it like it is. We seem overly absorbed about "offending" Muslim sensibilities, whereas our troops are getting killed! It seems to be all about PC!

[RightWhale]

This PC crap is binding our military like nothing else.

No other conquering army in history has allowed such freedom, so maybe it is past time to go for the crunch. Root them out.

[Alamo-Girl]

Indeed. Thanks for the heads up!