1 posted on
10/30/2003 10:37:12 PM PST by
scripter
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2 posted on
10/30/2003 10:38:01 PM PST by
scripter
(Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
To: scripter
This absolutely HAS to be unconstitutional.
3 posted on
10/30/2003 10:38:36 PM PST by
Howlin
To: scripter
Commu-Nazism at its best. Why don't I see Coughlin issuing any directives to McLeod not to say anything that contradicts the Bible in front of Emma? After all, shouldn't the sword of tolerance cut both ways?
Tammy Bruce, oddly enough, has made some interesting points about this issue. She thinks the gay elites have gone too far (she's a lesbian herself!). I recommend reading through The Death of Right and Wrong. A couple flimsy liberal dogmas can be found, but some VERY interesting points are made especially regarding the treatment of Christians.
7 posted on
10/30/2003 10:50:04 PM PST by
Proud to Be a McCarthyist
(To eternally damn you would be sinfully easy. All I'd have to do is tell you you don't need Jesus.)
To: scripter
Do liberals believe in freedom of thought?
Ya gotta be kidding
9 posted on
10/30/2003 10:53:16 PM PST by
GeronL
(Visit www.geocities.com/geronl)
To: scripter
Wow, if a judge told me I had to raise my kid like that, well then I'd move to Russia and get my freedom back... funny world.
12 posted on
10/30/2003 10:57:37 PM PST by
Porterville
(American First, Human being Second; liberal your derivative lifestyle will never be normalized.)
To: scripter
And to think there was some moron "Freeper" a while back who asked me to define HomoFascism, as if it didn't exist.
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13 posted on
10/30/2003 11:01:39 PM PST by
JoJo Gunn
(Liberalism - Better Living through Histrionics ©)
To: scripter
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16 posted on
10/30/2003 11:07:33 PM PST by
Dianna
To: scripter
WTF, I mean just WTF is this?
25 posted on
10/30/2003 11:18:54 PM PST by
Ursus arctos horribilis
("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
To: scripter
Pressure needs to be put on congress and state houses to impeach these run away judicial totalitarians. Most of the nations deterioration can be laid at their door step. These anti-constitutional tyrants must be yanked from the bench.
To: scripter
If ever the tail undertook to wag the dog, this is it.
To: scripter
Another troubling aspect of this case, he said, is the award of visitation and joint parenting responsibilities to a third-party who has no legal relationship to the daughter or the mother.Juxtapose this case, and see if you can decern the Judges decision. Say the adoptive mother was gay, and the "roommate" (i.e. parent with no "legal relationship" to the child) was the new Christian. Say, perhaps, the child was very close to the Christian woman, regarded her as a second mother, attended church with her, and even stretch the case to the point where the Lesbian adoptive mother was leading a wanton, and even proselytizing the young daughter by taking her to coming out parties, plying her with lesbian literature, and so forth.
Would the Judge rule consistently? Would the Judge grant the Christian former lesbian roommate with no legal standing parental visitation rights. Would this child be allowed to attend church against the objections of the Lesbian mother?
Would this Judge give the Christian woman more than 15 minutes to pack her bags, leave the house, and would he/she not invoke a court order against here to stay at least 500 yards away from the lesbian mothers daughter?!
Well, of course he/she would. It would make perfect, if perverted sense to this Judge. I guess the only question is, is this Judge also gay? Is that Judge bi-sexual? Is that Judge a member of a pro-atheist organization which is openly hostile to Christians (e.g. ACLU)? Is anyone in that Judges immediate family gay? That conflict of interest would turn the argument full circle.
Expect many more such difficult decisions by the newly evolved, blended family, as Child Welfare agencies give first priority for adoptions and foster care to minority couples (especially Gays), while almost entirely shutting out anyone who admits to having a Bible in their house, or attending church on Sunday. Its more than just an outrage, its purely sad.
Here's some personal experience (once removed) with the adoption industry, for those who care to read further:
My Christian sister adopted one child, and attempted the adoption of a second. The first was the child of an alcoholic mother, with all the attendant problems, and the second, of a drug abusing mother. She paid something like $20K to $25K in fees in both cases. The second mother had second thoughts after returning from partying for two weeks after the delivery. I guess she was off the drug high. She invoked her parental rights, and got the baby back. My sister was, of course, out every nickel she spent, while this young lady got a free load, plus a post-partum sucker-funded vacation! It was a great deal for all, except, of course, for my sister and her husband, who watched, waited, and cared for the woman for the full nine months of the term, and bonded with the baby for two weeks afterwards. They never heard what happened to the baby after the druggie mom got him back.
My cousin, whos husband is a Christian Pastor, went a far simpler route. Even though they already had a boy and girl of their own, after several years in the Mission fields, they felt a burden to help the poor girls of China, who are either murdered, or tossed away like flotsam to state orphanages. The only chance these girls have of a normal, healthy life. The adoption rate for girls in China is zero, however, they make a great cash-and-carry industry. My cousin used her inheritance to travel to China and adopt a beautiful little girl. Shes as precious as the come. Again, they paid a fortune for the opportunity of giving a little girl a hope and a dream.
The adoption business in the USA, and it is a business, is an obscene, pork laden, political hack-piece of garbage. The only ones who lose are the kids, and truly, since they cannot vote or pay to play (re: Californias Gov. Gray Davis), who cares about them anyway. The rest of the world takes its cue from nations like the USA. We murder children via abortion. Why shouldnt they? We warehouse and sell kids to the highest bidder, or most politically correct minority, irregardless of the welfare of the kids, so why should they use their own rejects as a renewable cash crop.
I love this country, but so much we allow is absolutely immoral.
SFS
To: scripter
But Ahnold and the other RINOS believe Sodomites and Lebians should be able to adopt children..
And these kinds of decisons will continue to be the result of such un-holy unions...
The futher undermining of American culture...and freedom.....
44 posted on
10/31/2003 3:54:07 AM PST by
joesnuffy
(Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
To: scripter
Hey, she's the one who set up her deal - I can't say as I feel a great deal of pity. Some things can't be undone once started, and to say otherwise just to get back at former lover is cruel to a child who may have formed a bond.
45 posted on
10/31/2003 4:04:26 AM PST by
Chancellor Palpatine
(Dr. Hasslein was the only human character who had any sense in the "Apes" series)
To: scripter
Homo means 'man' and phobic means 'fear'. Therefor, homophobic means 'fear of man'. It should be pretty easy to not teach 'fear of man'. Disgust of homosexuality should come naturally to the girl unless the "mommy" forces her to believe as she does.
46 posted on
10/31/2003 4:09:02 AM PST by
raybbr
To: scripter
Denver County Circuit Judge John W. CoughlinThis idiot has to be a member of the Homosexual Agenda For America. Either that or he's a sleepwalker.
Like to have his hard drive examined.
48 posted on
10/31/2003 4:22:51 AM PST by
JesseHousman
(Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
To: scripter
Liberty Counsel should slam dunk this one.
Every mother with a child who decides to hang out with a man other than the father now cedes parental rights to that man????
Ridiculous.
Where in this story is the biological father of the child?
50 posted on
10/31/2003 4:43:35 AM PST by
xzins
(Proud to be Army!)
To: scripter
While we're ripping out parts of our Constitution, why not rip out parts of God's Bible? Obviously nothing is sacred; everything is relative, right?
There is, however, an out to this whole thing. 'Homophobic' clearly involves fear, not the belief, that homosexual behavior is sinful. Love the sinner; hate the sin.
52 posted on
10/31/2003 4:48:38 AM PST by
FourPeas
(Preview? We don't need no stinkin' Preview!)
To: scripter
I see a judge wantin' impeachin' out there....
53 posted on
10/31/2003 4:59:55 AM PST by
mo
To: scripter
But Clark can't help being a homophobic Christian.
Her Creator wired her that way!
54 posted on
10/31/2003 5:00:21 AM PST by
keats5
(And don't you dare correct my spelling!)
To: scripter
Lawyers and liberal judges will be the death of this once great nation.
Clark and Elsey McLeod were in a lesbian relationship that broke up after Clark became a Christian and concluded homosexual behavior was wrong.
ANother example of someone having their genetica altered. This woman was homosexual and now, after coming to Christ, no longer is. Since the pro-death-by-AIDS/homosexual crowd says that homosexuality is genetic she must have had her genitics changed.
58 posted on
10/31/2003 5:47:21 AM PST by
69ConvertibleFirebird
(Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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