[Chancellor Palpatine]

Frequently of FR we will see articles written by Mr. Sobran, and see them held forth as some distillation of deep thought by those "true conservatives" of the paleocon right. In those threads, there will inevitably be some comment about Mr. Sobran's biases, but we are always assured that those don't really exist, and that his is a valid worldview, borne of hardy thought and reflection, and that by turning our backs on paleoconservatism, we do a disservice to the cause.

I found this little gem when lurking about on LF, and found this article sourced at a site I classify as appealing to neonazis.

I have long formed my opinion of Mr. Sobran and the doctrines he espouses, this merely confirmed them.

I invite others to read this and form their own opinions.

[malakhi]

Thanks, CP. This one is definitely worth a bookmark.

[Zack Nguyen]

This article makes me queasy as well. Frankly it's the reason I don't read or care what Sobran has to sya on anything.

[Lazamataz]

Sobran is otherwise a good thinker. I'll give him a pass on this issue, so long as he never rises to a position of power.

[marshmallow]

I have long formed my opinion of Mr. Sobran and the doctrines he espouses, this merely confirmed them.

Faux gravitas.

Substitute your screen handle for the words "Mr. Sobran" and I could say the same about you.

Your prejudices are equally as noxious as Sobran's. Only the texture is different.

[cookcounty]

Haven't read the thread yet. I just can't be that patient. This article is so full of lies, half-truths and outright BS that it's hard to know where to begin and now I have to go to work. Maybe this will still be here later. What a moron.

---No, I'm not Jewish, I'm a Gentile descended from a long line of German pig farmers.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

This is the prevalent body of Jews, our unacknowledged third party – the party of Zionism, Holocaust promotion, secularism, sexual license (including "gay rights" and legal abortion), and an aggressive U.S. foreign policy (in the interests of Israel, not the United States itself). The Jewish Party, only a small fraction of the U.S. population, donates more than half the money received by the presidential candidates of the two major parties. It also dominates the major news and entertainment media.

I imagine this reads a good deal more interestingly in the original Arabic.

[Lead Moderator]

Moderator's note: We have received a few complaints on this posting, saying that this is a forgery, that it is not written by Joe Sobran. I was able to find this on his site.

[dighton]

Raw sewage.

[Gargantua]

It certainly doesn't sound like Mr. Sobran is a Christian. Apporopos to the fact that, were he, he would know why the American media and the world are so fixated upon and "obsessed" with Israel.

The Bible makes many predictions, some of which have to do with what people of Faith refer to as the End Times.

Among the End Times prophecies are that the Nation-state of Israel would be re-established as a homeland for the Jews.

That this would occur at a point in world history when men would be "racing to and fro across the planet" (jet travel?).

At a time when people would not only do reporbate things, but when large chunks of the population would sit and applaud these reprobates (Jerry Springer?).

And here is the key: At this time, the tiny Nation-state of Israel will "hang like a large stone about the neck" of the entire world.

Not a week, or in many instances, a day will pass without world headlines being dominated by news about Israel.

These prophecies were made almost two thousand years ago. The Word of God is perfect, the perfect Truth.

[Migraine]

"Under the brutal rule of Ariel Sharon"

What brutal rule? I think he has been more restrained than every instinct in his corpulent body would ever have allowed. If brutal, the PLO, Hamas, et al would exist only in history books.

[saradippity]

The Jewish Party,only a small fraction of the U.S.population,donates more than half the money received by the presidential candidates of the two major parties,

Now if that is true,that is really something to worry about.I haven't read the thread,so it has probably been answered;however,if it hasn't,does anyone have information about the veracity of that statement?

[Mr. Mojo]

Eric Alterman of THE NATION has compiled a list of more than 60 well-known pundits who "reflexively" support Israel, while finding only 6 who are frequently critical.

Sobran reduced to falling back on the "research" of a columnist of such a leftist rag is pretty funny. .....and pathetic.

[Mr. Mojo]

Many columnists write about it more often than I do: Charles Krauthammer, William Safire, Cal Thomas, Paul Greenberg, Mona Charen, and George Will, to name a few. Of course they write uncritically about Israel,

Nonsense, Joe. These columnists can be very critical of Israel sometimes. .....usually when it appeases the violent Arabs surrounding them and buys into the suicidal "land for peace" bullsh/t.

[Mr. Mojo]

Every American president has to spend a disproportionate amount of his time coddling Israel and denouncing or actively fighting Israel's enemies.

I guess it's never occurred to Sobran the Israel's enemies and our enemies are one and the same. .....They're the enemies of civilization, in fact. But Joe is way too blinded by his Jew-hatred - aka, envy - to comprehend this.

[Mr. Mojo]

In truth, the neo-conservatives were hardly conservative at all. For most of them, Israel was everything and overrode all other issues. You could agree with them on nine out of ten issues, but if the tenth was Israel the other nine didn't matter to them. You were the enemy.

LOL..... First he says that neo-cons aren't at all conservative, then he admits that it's possible for paleos like himself to see eye to eye with them on 9 out of 10 issues!

[Mr. Mojo]

Israel's cruel invasion of Lebanon, led by Ariel Sharon

I see Sobran is getting his talking points directly from Hamas, Islamic Jihad, and Hezbollah these days. What's next Joe? You gonna quote Osama himself?

[wideminded]

Mr. Sobran probably overdid it somewhat, but it should not be an unspeakable statement in this country to point out that the interests of allied countries, including Israel, do not always match our own. Our connection with Israel often has much of the quality of an "entangling alliance". We had better have better intelligence than a few Debka articles if we decide to invade Syria to find the WMD.

[gcruse]

my own ardent support for Israel had ended in 1982

That was about a year after I had published a letter
to the editors of the Dallas Morning News coming
to the defense of Sobran for something or other.  He
was a good guy  then, not the scaly-backed  maggot of
today intent on hanging the worldz woez on 'da Jooz.'

[ambrose]

Wasn't he dumped by the National Review for being an anti-semite?

I guess William F. Buckley is a part of the Jewish conspiracy for world domination... </ sarcasm>

[Rushian]

But some think that Sobran, like Scalia, has been captured by the Orthodox Jew conspiracy. Since there are those to the 'right' of Sobran, shouldn't that establish his position as 'mainstream.'

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