Sobran: My Obsession with Jews [for all who mistakenly think he is a valuable contributor]

Federal Observer ^ | maybe 10/30/03 | Joe Sobran

[willieroe]

I'm 90% sure its a forgery. I did a google search and got 4 hits. All were web forums where posters submitted the same email article. Nowhere did the search reference an original publication which carried this article.

Small but telling point: Sobran doesn't "sign" his articles with "Joe Sobran". Check his website's archives - it's always "Joseph Sobran."

[Wallace T.]

I must wonder if Joe Sobran is going down the path of Revilo Oliver, who, like Sobran, was a classical scholar who started his career as a social commentator as a mainstream conservative and ended up in his dotage as a man who believed Hitler was too moderate. Oliver was not alone. In the post-World War II era, there were a number of men who started out as Taft-McCarthy-Goldwater supporters, then moved to the John Birch Society and similar "conspiracy theory" groups, and finally migrated into full blown anti-Semitism and white supremacism. Some people who drift in this direction, like Pat Buchanan, stop short of going as far as Sobran has.

This tendency is not just a Catholic phenomenon, as might be suggested by the names of Sobran or Bucahnan. Texe Marrs, a fundamentalist Christian prophecy commentator (who is also vehemently anti-Catholic) has gone from a mainstream premillenialist with views similar to those of Hal Lindsey or Tim LaHaye to a full blown anti-Semite, now claiming that the Jews are essentially a demon-possessed race. Even nonbelieving libertarians like Justin Raimondo have shown tendencies toward blaming the Jews for everything that goes wrong in the world.

I must wonder if the movement from a mainstream position to the farther shores of politics is more of a pathology than a reasoned position based on the evidence.

[AmishDude]

Yeah, "For Fear of the Jews" is apparently his speech there.

[Valin]

from the Federal Observer

FOREWARD: Below is a column written by Joe Sobran. Mr. Sobran was formerly an editor at National Review magazine. National Review was founded by William Buckley and for many years it was regarded at the preeminent journal of conservative thought in America. But William Buckley was a coward. He was afraid to take on the power of the Jewish Party in America. So when Joe Sobran started writing articles that were critical of Israel, Mr. Buckley fired Joe Sobran. Now, in my opinion, National Review magazine is run by a worthless Neo-Con Jew when it should be run by a Pro-Life conservative like Joe Sobran.

Give me a break. I guess someone can be on the right and an idiot at the same time.

[SJackson]

Go to Sobrans Web page, access his 2002 Newsletter archives, you’ll find it in May 2002 — Vol. 9, No. 5 second article, titled “The Obsession”.

This link might take you right there.

AM, simply pinged you to clarify Sobran’s authorship

[Valin]

I'm married to one for 30 years; I'm definitely obsessed

A wise move on your part! :-)

[SJackson]

It's Sobran. See post 45. It's from his EMail newsletter and it is on his site, you just didn't find it.

[AmishDude]

Thanks. Great work.

[dennisw]

Obsessions about Israel
March 6, 2003

by Joe Sobran

The other day a Zionist writer accused me of being
"an obsessed critic of Israel." And here I'd imagined I
was an obsessed critic of the U.S. Government........

......MORE......

http://www.sobran.com/columns/2003/030306.htm

[Catspaw]

And there it is, word for word, right on Sobran's own website.

[Sabertooth]

Frequently of FR we will see articles written by Mr. Sobran, and see them held forth as some distillation of deep thought by those "true conservatives" of the paleocon right.

Worthless flamebait. The whole paleocon-neocon dichotomy is forced. Archane political labels have utility as shorthand generalizations, but little else.

So Sobran is a gossamer-veiled anti-Semite. He's a scumbag, no news there.

Are paleos therefore always anti-Semites?

What if one is a domestic paleo and a foreign policy neo?

Is there a foreign/domestic, paleo/neo checklist? Or a checkerboard, like the Libertarians use on college campus registration drives?

Here, select these colors in order of preference, send me $19.95, and I'll tell you your paleo/neo profile.

[St.Chuck]

Thanks for posting this. Mr. Sobran is one of the clearest thinking conservative pundits writing today. His commentary on social issues are very worthwhile.

[RANGERAIRBORNE]

I think you are right-this is a forgery, or at least some of the most inflammatory parts are. Sobran is anti-Israel, but he is not a moron- I can't imagine that he would commit stuff like that "plague-carriers" paragraph to print.

I guess the thing to do is to email this "article" to him and ask him if he really wrote it, or not?

[SJackson]

Personally, I'm starting to think this is a hoax. Somebody post a real link (to something other than neo-nazi sites or public forums.)

See 45 for the link to Sobran’s site. It's classic Sobran from his Email newsletter, so it takes a bit of time to find, also CP’s site changed the title from the original The Obsession to My Obsession with Jews

If you google "The Obsession" sobran you’ll find it all over the cesspool of the internet.

[AmishDude]

See post #45.

[Graybeard58]

"That sounds like a defiantly brutal denial that "all men are created equal."


...It could be that jewish people aren't taking their tips for survival from Abraham Lincoln.

[r9etb]

I guess the thing to do is to email this "article" to him and ask him if he really wrote it, or not?

I did, in fact, e-mail him (no response, but hey -- it's only been 5 minutes). However, if you go up to #45, you'll find a link to the article, right on Sobran's own site. He wrote it.

[SJackson]

I think you are right-this is a forgery

The link to the article on Sobran's site is in post 45.

[Catspaw]

I think you are right-this is a forgery, or at least some of the most inflammatory parts are. Sobran is anti-Israel, but he is not a moron- I can't imagine that he would commit stuff like that "plague-carriers" paragraph to print.

See post #45. The second link takes you right to the Sobran newsletter at the Sobran website. He wrote it.

[St.Chuck]

This paragraph is the essnce of the piece, and what we have here is a restatement of the Medieval idea of the "dirty Jew," the corrupting Jew, the Jew as a defective human, the Jew who undermines good, clean Christian values.

I didn't get that at all. You are the one applying some kind of steroetype.