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To: lainie
Difficult to tell from all the smoke how
close it is to where those cars are parked:



Backed up freeway traffic near the above picture. (Didn't
catch which freeway this is. Heavy traffic is moving toward pic one area:


1,492 posted on 10/29/2003 2:29:47 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy
oh what a nightmare
1,493 posted on 10/29/2003 2:30:36 PM PST by lainie
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To: TomGuy
Big Bear on ABC - fire visible through clouds of smoke. (Don't know if the helicopter folk are sure it's Big Bear or not, tho.)
1,494 posted on 10/29/2003 2:30:52 PM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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Most of deaths in Cedar Fire so far were people who did not heed mandantory evac orders, ABC says.

Current totals:
950 square miles burned
Deaths: 17
2000 homes destroyed
11,000 firefighters working
Costliest disaster in state history.

Death toll confirmation-wise was 17, does not include the three firefighters who were killed, so actual death total is 20.
1,499 posted on 10/29/2003 2:32:21 PM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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To: TomGuy
My guess is that is the intersection of the I-5 (wider portions) and the state hwy 14 (the thinner ribbons). I think the pic is shot looking south bound, with the heavier backed up traffic is trying to go north on I-5 toward Stevenson Ranch.

If I am correct, this is the intersection that fell down when the 1971 earthquake happened.

If I am correct, what's the prize?? :)
1,552 posted on 10/29/2003 2:50:04 PM PST by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: TomGuy
The backed-up traffic is on the northbound I-5 by the interchange to the 14. (Did they close the 5?) BTW, the eastbound 14 to the southbound 5 overpass is where a CHP motorcyle cop plunged to his death in the Northridge earthquake when the span collapsed.
1,600 posted on 10/29/2003 3:08:40 PM PST by Snerfling
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To: TomGuy

I know it well! You're looking southbound on the 5 (note all the traffic headed north from that juncture - this would be about 3 miles before Stevenson Ranch/Valencia. The sweep on the left is the beginning of the I-210 headed east. What curves in on the lower right is the infamous twice-collapsed-due-to-earthquakes Newhall Pass interchange at the end of the southbound Antelope Valley Freeway.

Right at the one car you see on it is where it collapsed during the Northrudge quake; it dumped itself all over both sides of the 5 freeway.

1,628 posted on 10/29/2003 3:22:39 PM PST by ErnBatavia (Credito Facil !)
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