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Here we go again; thank you spectr17 for the links!
1 posted on 10/28/2003 11:00:05 PM PST by lainie
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CBS Web cam interview with Davis.

Reporter (female) just asked why the Bush Admin refused to give $$$ for the beetle problem. Davis corrected her and said they got several $Million.

[Aggravating when reporters try to insert AGENDA into the tragedies.]
1,320 posted on 10/29/2003 1:44:45 PM PST by TomGuy
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MSNBC webcam: Looks like structures burning. Not sure where.


1,342 posted on 10/29/2003 1:50:41 PM PST by TomGuy
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Near Stevenson Ranch/I-5 area (CBS Webcam):


1,349 posted on 10/29/2003 1:51:54 PM PST by TomGuy
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That white slotch just upper-right of center is a helicopter. Visibility is bad; alot of smoke.
1,363 posted on 10/29/2003 1:56:30 PM PST by TomGuy
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Home engulfed. Feed didn't say exactly where. They were
showing Stevenson Ranch area a bit earlier.
Reporter in copter just said they refueled at the Apple
Valley airport earlier and the wind was heavy.
1,368 posted on 10/29/2003 1:59:04 PM PST by TomGuy
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Extended view of house burning in post 1368


1,374 posted on 10/29/2003 2:00:19 PM PST by TomGuy
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I just wanted to let all you Californians know that I'm praying for you. I know it's not much, but it's what I can offer.

Please hang in there. Hopefully with the Grace of God and the hard work from all those firemen, the fires will be out soon.

The College Republicans on my campus are talking about doing something for either the victims or the firefighters. If there is anything specific that we can do, please let me know.
1,387 posted on 10/29/2003 2:04:07 PM PST by azGOPgal (God Bless America)
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Wind blowing from offshore -- Cedar Pines area, I think.


1,398 posted on 10/29/2003 2:07:59 PM PST by TomGuy
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Encroaching on another residential area:



A bit northward of the above pic:



Chopper reporter says something is burning (second pic) because there is also black smoke coming up.
1,417 posted on 10/29/2003 2:13:31 PM PST by TomGuy
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Different house in the same general Crest Pines area:


1,429 posted on 10/29/2003 2:16:27 PM PST by TomGuy
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Those yellowish blotches are actually firemen at this residence.
1,453 posted on 10/29/2003 2:21:47 PM PST by TomGuy
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Crestline (chopper reporter thinks)



Fireman with hose in lower right portion of image.

Sad! So much devastation.
1,471 posted on 10/29/2003 2:24:25 PM PST by TomGuy
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Difficult to tell from all the smoke how
close it is to where those cars are parked:



Backed up freeway traffic near the above picture. (Didn't
catch which freeway this is. Heavy traffic is moving toward pic one area:


1,492 posted on 10/29/2003 2:29:47 PM PST by TomGuy
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In Cedar Pines Park


1,501 posted on 10/29/2003 2:33:05 PM PST by TomGuy
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Dangerously heroic. Chopper dropping chemicals to try to retard the fire spread.
1,517 posted on 10/29/2003 2:37:27 PM PST by TomGuy
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Rescuers are staying busy, too.
Taking someone to a careflight chopper.

1,536 posted on 10/29/2003 2:44:08 PM PST by TomGuy
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The wood deck survived, but the house didn't.



So many houses are going up in flame that the chopper
reporter can't even focus on all of them.
1,563 posted on 10/29/2003 2:55:04 PM PST by TomGuy
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Plea made to protect California owl; Environmentalists' fight likely to run into Bush opposition

Copyright 2001 Milwaukee Journal Sentinel June 3, 2001 By JENNIFER BOWLES Riverside Press-Enterprise

Riverside, Calif. -- The California spotted owl has been steadily declining in the Southern California mountains -- the San Bernardinos, San Jacintos, Santa Anas among them -- as well as the Sierra Nevada, and is at the center of renewed haggling over the Endangered Species Act.

An environmental group is seeking to have the bird protected under the act, just the kind of lawsuit the Bush administration is attempting to curb.

Federal protection for the owl most likely wouldn't create the level of uproar that came from the Northwest timber industry when the bird's cousin, the northern spotted owl, was placed on the threatened-species list in 1990.

Logging in the Southern California mountains is limited to cutting trees for firewood. And while the San Bernardino National Forest is a playground for 8 million people each year, even recreation would not be seriously restricted. A few hiking and off-road trails already have been rerouted around owl nests, said Forest Service spokeswoman Ruth Wenstrom.

But construction projects that require clearing wide swaths of trees, such as power lines, sewer lines, new roads or expansion of a ski resort, could face tougher obstacles in getting approval, Wenstrom said.

"We intend to keep them off the threatened and endangered species list," said Matt Mathes, a Forest Service spokesman. " Frankly, when animals get on that list, that's something of a failure on the part of humans. That's not supposed to happen."

While logging is the main culprit in the owl's decline in the Sierra range, a multitude of issues plagues the owl's life in Southern California.

Among the potential problems, said Bill La Haye, a wildlife biologist working for the Forest Service, are damaging air pollution that banks up against the mountains; homes and ski resorts that chew up and fragment owl habitat; drought and wildfires.

The owls, the environmentalists say, are important to humans because they are indicators of the health of forests.

The Center for Biological Diversity is impatient with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service's progress in helping the owl and has filed notice that it intends to sue the agency in an effort to get protection.

The service acknowledged in October that the owl's populations are declining and said it intended to decide by March whether to give the species federal protection. March came and went.

"It's on the back burner at the moment," said Pat Foulk, a spokeswoman for the agency's Sacramento office.

Environmentalists say lawsuits are the only way most species get protection. Legal action forced protection for the California spotted owl's cousins: the northern spotted owl and the Mexican spotted owl.

But the Bush administration is trying to quash the onslaught of such lawsuits -- there are 75 current lawsuits covering more than 400 species, plus 86 notices of intent to sue covering 640 more species, said Jane Hendron, a Fish and Wildlife spokeswoman.

1,660 posted on 10/29/2003 3:34:54 PM PST by Henk
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Just had a nice little quake in Simi Valley.
1,678 posted on 10/29/2003 3:45:53 PM PST by Flashman_at_the_charge
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What is the status of Poway?
1,684 posted on 10/29/2003 3:48:27 PM PST by hsmomx3 (I DID NOT vote for that woman, Napolitano!)
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