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Southern California Fires -- Live Thread 10/29

Posted on 10/28/2003 11:00:04 PM PST by lainie

Cal Fire Maps

http://wildfire.cr.usgs.gov/ca_geomac/viewer.htm

http://www.incidentcontrol.com

http://www.firedetect.ssd.nesdis.noaa.gov/Run.htm

Live online scanner feeds for fire, cops, CDF, air attack

http://www.live365.com/stations/kb6jag

FYI, this one gives pop ups if you use it.

No pop ups on this feed

http://www.police-scanner.info/livescan.htm

Another live scanner feed.

Click on Big Bear Feed

http://www.compucations.com/nuke/html/modules.php?name=LiveScanners

another live feed for socal, Verdugo Fire Communications Center

http://verdugo.ci.glendale.ca.us/radio.html

Simi Valley fire scanner

http://www.shoutcast.com/directory/?s=scanner&numresult=100&x=34&y=9

http://209.153.152.2:8888 lots of scanner chatter in Ventura county

CHP Dispatch

http://cad.chp.ca.gov/

CDF AIR CHANNELS

Red - 151.220 - Air to ground units Blue - 151.280 - Air to air Green - 151.295 - Air to air Yellow - 151.310 - Air to air Victor - 122.925 AM - Air to air for contract helicopters

List of channels for SoCal

http://www.qsl.net/ke6alv/

Get a copy of Police call for when you're mobile.

http://www.policecall.com/

San Bernardino National Forest

171.475 mhz and 172.225

123.9750 National Air Tanker Base Freq. 135.9750 Air ops 151.2200 CDF Red Air to Ground 151.2650 CDF Region 151.3100 CDF Air Tactics 6 151.3550 CDF Command Net 1 154.2650 OES White Fire 2 154.2800 OES White Fire 1 154.2950 OES White Fire 3 164.1250 Fire Camp Service Net 166.6125 "Command" Fontana area 166.8500 Air attack 167.9500 BLM Air to Ground 168.0500 NIFC Tac 1 168.0750 NIFC Tac 3 168.200 NIFC Tac 2 (Crew Net) 168.2500 BLM? "Command" 168.4000 BLM "Command" 168.6000 NIFC Tac 3 168.6250 Air Guard 169.1250 Calif. Fire Travel Net 169.0625 vehicle mechanics? 170.0000 Air to Ground Region 5 173.9125 Region 5 Tac 4 173.9625 Region 5 Tac 5 173.9875 Region 5 Tac 6 415.5500 National Air channel

HAM

145.220

Los Angeles Area

KNBC: http://www.nbc4.tv

KABC: http://www.abc7.com

KCBS: http://www.cbs2.com

KTTV: http://www.fox11la.com

KCAL: http://www.kcal.com

Good list of SoCal television stations and links to their websites:

http://newslink.org/catele.html

San Diego

http://nbcsandiego.feedroom.com/?fr_story=af0368e01c0323615f2e6f30970885b317fe905c

http://www.kogo.com/streaming.html

List of online TV and Newspapers in Ca.

http://www.keepandbeararms.com/opsd/np/ca.htm

2 posted on 10/27/2003 9:18 PM PST by spectr17


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: firestorm; forestfire; michaeldobbs; socalfires; wildfire
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To: Strzelec
Yay for Thomas Guides! Mine has gone missing; think the hubby wandered it across the house for me. ;)
321 posted on 10/29/2003 1:53:59 AM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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To: wolficatZ
Yes! That's the park map I've got somewhere or other! :)

I miss that place. Campy, yes, but cool too.
322 posted on 10/29/2003 1:55:08 AM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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this posted by Jerry from radio shack in crestline

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 7:18 pm

http://www.compucations.com/phpBB2/index.php

I made it up the mountain to Crestline today by means which I will not mention here. Every business on Lake Drive is 100% intact. Debbie and Doug, your home is safe, as is all the homes on our street. I turned off your main breaker and noticed you already shut off the gas. I turned off our neighbors electrical as well. Most of the homes that are at the end of Saturn on the hillside from Skyland have been destroyed. My heart goes out to those who have lost. I spent a few hours driving around the planet streets, and with the exception of the before mentioned, everything seemed OK. Homes that overlook the valley on Crest Forest Dr. by Hwy 18 are OK with the exception of 1 or 2. Homes directly across the Cliffhanger are intact. If I can be of assistance answering any questions or concerns for anyone, reply to me and if I know something I will post it here. Good luck to all our neighbors in Crestline and surrounding areas!!
323 posted on 10/29/2003 1:55:23 AM PST by spectr17 (Veni, Vedi, Velcro. I came, I saw, I stuck around)
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Here's an active, animated smoke movement map as provided by the NOAA. (One segment of map, covering San Diego area, not available due to closure of Miramar Air Station.)

Website located at:

http://weather.noaa.gov/radar/loop/DS.p37cr/si.ksox.shtml
324 posted on 10/29/2003 2:12:18 AM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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Grand Prix fire update from http://www.incidentcontrol.com :


Grand Prix Fire updated at 1:12 am 10-29-03

Mandatory Evacuations:

Glen Helen - North Side of I-15
Cajon Canyon towards Blue Cut
Devore and Devore Heights - all the way up
Mt. Baldy Village
Lytle Creek

Evacuations have been lifted: All of Rancho Cucamonga,
Rialto in Los Colinas and County Club, San Antonio Heights,
Cucamonga and Upland Area
For more specific details call (909) 383-5688

Main evacuation site - Jesse Turner Center at 6396 Citrus Ave., Fontana
Evacuation site - Magnolia Recreation Center 651 W 15th St, San Antonio Heights
Evacuation site - Claremont High School, 1601 N. Indian Hill, Claremont

For large animal relocations, residents can contact
the Rancho Cucamonga Emergency Operations Center at (909) 477-2700.
Animal control may be reached at 1-800-472-5609.

San Bernardino National Forest closed to all visitors
Angeles National Forest closed to all visitors

Significant Events:

The Red Flag Warning for the area has been lifted. Evacuation orders have been lifted for areas on the southern perimeter. Evacuations still remain in effect for Lytle Creek and Mt. Baldy Village.

On October 27, 2003, President Bush declared a major disaster for the State of California, triggering the release of federal funds to help people and communities recover from the Wildfires that occurred October 21, 2003, and continuing. Toll-free Teleregistration number for disaster victims: 1-800-621-FEMA, TTD 1-800-462-7585. FEMA Disaster Assistance Click here

This incident will henceforth be divided east/west into two different incidents. The southern dividing line is at the San Bernardino County/Los Angeles County boundary. The northern dividing line is the boundary between the San Bernardino and Angeles National Forests. Studebaker's T1 IMT will continue to manage the Grand Prix Fire. The western portion of the fire is named the Padua Fire. IncidentControl.com will continue to use this Grand Prix page for both fires.

- Wrightwood update: The fire is still on the slope on the West side of Lytle Creek. The fire is creeping across the slope and backing down slope, and has only progressed a few hundred yards since last night. There are now dozers in the bottom of Lytle Creek and they are cutting two fuel breaks, one on each side of the canyon. Dozers have also cut a fuel break extending the Ridge road further East.

In the Eastern end of the canyon the fire has slopped over the ridge (only an acre or two) under the power lines. This area is about 1.5 miles from Blue Cut and down old 66 but still a long way from the road. And it is not active fire. At this time there is not even a hint of a need to evacuate Wrightwood.

The Grand Prix and Old fire have merged with the total fire front along the urban interface of 40 miles. (This does not mean that active burning is taking place on all 40 miles)

Acres: 57,232 acres

American Red Cross
• Residents in Old Fire areas call: Inland Empire Red Cross 909-888-1481
• Residents in Grand Prix Fire areas call: Inland Valley Red Cross 909-986-6651
For any fire Red Cross Toll Free: 1-866-GET-INFO

Blood Need

Due to the fires surrounding San Bernardino and Riverside Counties, there is an urgent need for blood. The Blood Bank has had to cancel a number of scheduled blood drives due to the evacuation of the areas that these blood drives were going to be held. In addition, due to the problems with air travel, they have been unable to fly in blood from other areas. For these reasons, ARMC will be hosting an emergency blood drive tomorrow, October 28, 7:30 - 5 PM, in ARMC's Oak Room. You can also make a blood donation at any of the donor centers located throughout San Bernardino and Riverside Counties. If you would like any additional information, please contact the Blood Bank at 1-800-879-4484.

Cause

Suspected to have been started by an arsonist, the fire investigation team made up of the California Department of Forestry, the USDA Forest Service and Rancho Cucamonga Fire continue their search for the person (s) responsible. Any workers or residents of the Hunter Ridge Home area that saw any suspicious activity (such as cars speeding away or suspicious persons) on October 21 between 1 pm and 2:30 pm, are requested to call (909) 881-6900 or contact their local fire station or arson bureau.
Closures Subject to change at any time.
• San Bernardino National Forest closed to all visitors
• Angeles National Forest closed to all visitors

Concerns

The fire is burning in an area that has heavy brush and timber and is steep, rugged and inaccessible. The work the firefighters are doing is in very difficult and dangerous terrain. Access into this fire is difficult. Even though there is a road across the top of San Sevaine ridge, it is very narrow requiring an extraordinary coordination effort to manage the up and down traffic. The primary and overriding focus is keeping our firefighters safe from harm, while still accomplishing the mission.

Major power transmission lines are a concern on this fire because both the DWP and SCE have lines that run through the fire area. There are about three of these lines and while the utilities could probably handle the loss of one of the circuits, loss or shut down of more than one could mean power outages for a million customers. Including the San Bernardino Air Tanker Base that is needed to fight the current fires.

Containment: 35 % containment. Expected containment date is 10-31-03

Cost To Date: $9,500,000

Damage To date:
2 cars destroyed
Structures Destroyed: 50 Homes, 48 Outbuilding
Structures Damaged: 40 Homes
1 Helicopter on USFS contract sustained significant damage while on the ground and overrun by fire. (no one was injured)
1 boat on trailer
4 cars damaged

All structure damage & loss reports are handled by the police or sheriff authority, where the structure is located. Not the Red Cross.

The State of California Insurance Commissioner has established an information line for the public to use for questions on insurance-related matters. The toll-free number is 1-800-927-HELP. Information is also available on the Internet at www.insurance.ca.gov

Equipment: 225 engines, 210 hand crews, 27 water tenders, 5 helitankers, 10 helicopters, 1 air tanker, 19 dozers [aircraft fly only during daylight hours & when wind conditions permit].

Evacuation Info

Animal control may be reached at 1-800-472-5609.
County Fire Information: 909 355-8800

Flight Restrictions

FAA FAR (Federal Aviation Regulation) 91.137 has been placed around the fire area restricting non-fire related aircraft movement. The restriction will remain in place until all fire activity ceases.

Fuel: Heavy brush, grass with timber component in upper reaches of watershed.

Incident Command

Unified Command - CDF, Rancho Cucamonga Fire, USFS and SB County Fire
As of 7am 10-22-03 Southern California Interagency Incident Management Team III (Mike Dietrich - Incident Commander, Martin Esparza - Information Officer
Incident number CA-BDU-11262
Transfer of command to National Interagency Incident Management Team (Studebaker) took place Sat at 1900.

Injuries: 27 Total. 1 poison oak encounter, 2 bee sting, 3 eye injury, 1 minor burn, 1 heat exhaustion.

Location

Start Latitude:34° 9´ 30"
Longitude:117° 30´ 48"
Fire origin was on Foxborough Drive, Fontana.

10-21-03, 2:22 pm. The Grand Prix Fire is located in the Northern portion of Fontana, California, and into the San Bernardino National Forest. West of Foxborough Drive and San Sevaine Wash, north of Coyote Road, south of Cucamonga Wilderness and south of Duncan Canyon. The fire was named Grand Prix because the initial dispatch was to Grand Prix and Shetland Lane in Fontana.

BDF Chief Darrel Mincey reported that the fire started around 14:30 and was already at 80 acres before the first air assets arrived. This fire burned 2443 acres in the first 12 hours. The first operational period of this fire burned in an area that had burned during the Texas Fire in 1982.

Observed Fire Behavior: Sustained runs and spotting in continuous fuel beds.

Personnel: 2,278

Planned Actions

Provide structure protection. Continue line construction and with dozers and hand crews. Mop-up and secure the fire perimeter in developed areas.

Power Outages

Power outage in Lytle Creek.
3 High Voltage power lines and Transformers which provide 25% of the power to LA basin are in the fire area. They continue to be a concern to fire managers.

School Closure Info

Bear Valley Unified: all schools closed 10/29
Colton Joint Unified: all schools closed 10/29
Mt. Baldy Joint: all schools closed - until further notice
Redlands Unified: all schools closed 10/29 Click Here
Rialto Unified: all schools closed for the rest of the week, will reopen 11/03
Rim of the World Unified: all schools closed - until further notice
San Bernardino City Unified: all schools closed through 10/29
Yucaipa-Calimesa Joint Unified: all schools closed 10/29
Chaffey Community College: main campus and off campus sites in Chino, Fontana, and Ontario closed 10/28, will reopen 10/29
California State University, San Bernardino: closed through 10/28, will reopen 10/29

For regular updates regarding school and districts closures, visit the San Bernardino County Superintendent of Schools Web site Click Here or call Communications at (909) 386-2413.

Redlands Unified School District - Closed 10-29-03

Special Overview

Southern California Edison has announced that it may take the unprecedented step of shutting down power in bark beetle-infested forests in San Bernardino and Riverside counties under hazardous conditions of high, sustained winds and low humidity. SCE’s new protective outage policy is an extraordinary precautionary measure to reduce the risk to lives and property.

It affects some 31,000 SCE customers in the San Bernardino and San Jacinto mountains, where more than a million trees are dead or dying. When high winds strike the bark beetle-infested forest, weakened tree limbs and other material
are more likely to fall or get blown into SCE facilities. This could result in wildfires. Depending on the duration of these conditions, outages could last from several hours to several days.

Intensive communication efforts are underway to notify affected customers, property owners, public safety agencies, legislators and other parties regarding the need to implement this unprecedented safety measure.


Structures Threatened

3,400 homes, 4,900 out buildings, 100 commercial
Structures are threatened in the communities of Lytle Creek


Agencies Involved

CDF, US Forest Service, California Highway Patrol, San Bernardino County Fire Department, Southern California Edison, Dept of Corrections, San Bernardino Sheriff, Red Cross, Animal Shelter, Flood Control, DWP, Rancho Cucamonga PD, Ontario Police Dept., OES, Caltrans, Southern California Gas Company

Contact (909) 887-8921, Grand Prix Fire Information Desk or (909) 383-5688 for San Bernardino National Forest Incident Information Desk.
San Bernardino County Fire Information Line 909 355-8800(Recording)
Website with updates www.incidentcontrol.com

325 posted on 10/29/2003 2:22:17 AM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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To: Strzelec
Thank you so much! I still haven't been able to contact them by e-mail; it's hard to realize how much we take for granted instant communication until it's down.
326 posted on 10/29/2003 2:23:02 AM PST by maryz
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Scanner report:

21715 Ridge Drive - Report of fire in person's backyard. No Thomas Bros. page number indicated.
327 posted on 10/29/2003 2:23:23 AM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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Old fire update from http://www.incidentcontrol.com :


Old Fire updated at 1:13 am 10-29-03

Mandatory and immediate evacuation for the communities:

Summit Valley, Telephone Canyon & Las Flores area
Big Bear Valley, Lake Arrowhead, Crestline, Blue Jay, Twin Peaks, Cedar Pines, Skyforest, Seven Oaks, Angelus Oaks, Running Springs, Arrowbear, Cedar Glen, Rim Forest, Green Valley Lake
North San Bernardino, Forest Falls, Mountain Home Village

For evacuees with animals: Apple Valley Animal Shelter
Horsemen's Center, 24320 Highway 18, Apple Valley
760-240-7000 x7555

Residents coming to Hesperia shelters can take their animals to the San Bernardino County Fairgrounds in Victorville.

Mandatory evacuations have been lifted for:
North/East Del Rosa
East Highlands Ranch
Yucaipa - Muscoy

American Red Cross has set up Shelter sites for evacuees in Hesperia at the
following High Schools: Sultana High School, 17311 Sultana Ave.
Hesperia High School 9898 Maple Avenue
San Bernardino International Airport. (To access the Shelter site, enter the
airport from 3rd Street and Del Rosa Avenue.)
American Red Cross also opened a shelter at Apple Valley High School, 11837
Navajo Road, Apple Valley.

For more information call 909-383-5688 or 909-355-8800

San Bernardino National Forest closed to all visitors
Angeles National Forest closed to all visitors

Significant Events:

County offers $50,000 reward for wildfire arsonist
Generous resident adds $10,000 to reward fund

The County of San Bernardino is offering a $50,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the person or people who intentionally set the Old Fire, which has so far burned more than 32,000 acres, destroyed more than 500 homes, and led to the deaths of at least two people.

"The murderer who set this fire has created an unimaginable amount of terror and suffering. This arsonist needs to be removed from society and punished for the devastation that has occurred," said Board of Supervisors Chairman Dennis Hansberger.

Chairman Hansberger announced the reward during a televised news conference today. Within moments, a county resident viewing the broadcast contacted Chairman Hansberger's office and added $10,000 to the reward fund. Others interested in doing so can contact Liz Thomas in Chairman Hansberger's office at (909) 387-4855.

The San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department is leading the arson investigation, which because of the deaths has been elevated to a murder investigation. The department has released an artist's sketch of one of the suspects based on witness accounts. He is a white male in his early to mid 20s who was traveling in a 2000 or 2001 light gray Chevrolet or Dodge van with a full rear window. The fire was set on Saturday morning on Old Waterman Canyon Road.

Anyone with information is urged to contact Sgt. Bobby Dean with the Sheriff's Department Homicide Detail at (909) 387-3589 or toll-free at 1-866-346-7632.

On October 27, 2003, President Bush declared a major disaster for the State of California, triggering the release of federal funds to help people and communities recover from the Wildfires that occurred October 21, 2003, and continuing. Toll-free Teleregistration number for disaster victims: 1-800-621-FEMA, TTD 1-800-462-7585.

The Grand Prix and Old fire have merged with the total fire front along the urban interface of 40 miles. (This does not mean that active burning is taking place on all 40 miles.)

The Playground Fire is now a part of the Old Fire and is no longer a separate fire.

SCE spokesman Steve Conroy states that SCE has lost 2 main transmission lines feeding the mountain top communities. Running Springs, Crestline & mountain top communities in that area are without power. It may be out for up to 48 hours.

Acres: 36,780 + acres

American Red Cross
• Residents in Old Fire areas call: Inland Empire Red Cross 909-888-1481
• Residents in Grand Prix Fire areas call: Inland Valley Red Cross 909-986-6651
For any fire Red Cross Toll Free: 1-866-GET-INFO

Blood Need

Due to the fires surrounding San Bernardino and Riverside Counties, there is an urgent need for blood. The Blood Bank has had to cancel a number of scheduled blood drives due to the evacuation of the areas that these blood drives were going to be held. In addition, due to the problems with air travel, they have been unable to fly in blood from other areas. For these reasons, ARMC will be hosting an emergency blood drive tomorrow, October 28, 7:30 - 5 PM, in ARMC's Oak Room. You can also make a blood donation at any of the donor centers located throughout San Bernardino and Riverside Counties. If you would like any additional information, please contact the Blood Bank at 1-800-879-4484.

Boil Water Order....

Due to the recent fire, the California Department of Health services, in conjunction with the San Bernardino County Health Department and East Valley Water District are advising all residents of the following service areas:

North of Foothill and Piedmont Drive between Manzanita Drive on the West and Willow Drive on the East. San Manuel Indian Reservation, all residents living along Victoria Avenue, north of Indian Service Road to use boiled tap water or bottled water for drinking and cooking purposes as a safety precaution. All tap water used for drinking or cooking should be boiled rapidly for at least one minute. This is the preferred method to assure that the water is safe to drink.

Cause: Arson (see CHP Dispatch Log - see 9:59 am postings)

Closures
Subject to change at any time.
• San Bernardino National Forest closed to all visitors
• Angeles National Forest closed to all visitors

Concerns: The fire is burning in an area that has heavy brush and timber and is steep, rugged and inaccessible.

Containment: 10 % containment. Expected containment date unknown.

Cost To Date: $3,658,291

Damage

Structure Loss: 500 total (including 300 in City of San Bernardino, 150 unincorporated, 10 Waterman Canyon, 27 Crestline, 9 Devore, 4 Devore Heights, 10 Commercial) - Also properties at the Del Rosa Forest Fire Station and Cal State San Bernardino.

All structure damage & loss reports are handled by the police or sheriff authority, where the structure is located. Not the Red Cross.

The State of California Insurance Commissioner has established an information line for the public to use for questions on insurance-related matters. The toll-free number is 1-800-927-HELP. Information is also available on the Internet at www.insurance.ca.gov

Equipment: 199 engines, 44 hand crews, 27 dozers, 42 water tenders, 15 helicopters

Evacuated people: 60,000

IMPORTANT EVACUATION INFORMATION:

Due to the unsafe conditions caused by fire-damaged utility lines, gas, water leaks and high windy conditions, no residents will be allowed back into the evacuation area until further notice. Assessment teams will be canvassing the areas Sunday morning to determine damages to residences. Assessment information may not be available until late Wednesday, 10/29.

American Red Cross Shelter site is set up to receive evacuees at Sultana High School at 17311 Sultana Street (cross street of I Street) in Hesperia. There is an additional Shelter site at the Passenger Terminal at San Bernardino International Airport (Norton).

Mountain residents of Crestline/Arrowhead area that are being evacuated to shelters in the City of Hesperia are to take their household pets to the San Bernardino County Fairgrounds in the city of Victorville. Although managed by Animal Control, pets are being looked after by caring volunteers 24 hours a day.

Flight Restrictions

FAA FAR (Federal Aviation Regulation) 91.137 has been placed around the fire area restricting non-fire related aircraft movement. The restriction will remain in place until all fire activity ceases.

Fuel: Heavy brush, grass with timber component in upper reaches of watershed.

Incident Command
Initial Incident Commander: Mick McCormick

Injuries: 25 total - The two injuries were a 3rd degree burn to the calf and a 2nd degree burn to the lower back.
2 confirmed deaths of seniors related to stress

Location

Start Latitude:34° 10´ 42"
Longitude:117° 16´ 42"

Fire origin was on Old Waterman Road & Hwy 18
Observed Fire Behavior Rapid rates of spread with spotting. The fire made runs to the west and threatened the town of Devore. The wind continues to move the fire to the East and West and then when the wind dies or the fire is sheltered it will make uphill runs.

Personnel: 1,632

Priorities
• To provide for public and firefighter safety and protection of property.
• Keep the public informed about fire activity and evacuations.
• Minimize the impact of fire suppression efforts on the forest.

School Info

Bear Valley Unified: all schools closed 10/29
Colton Joint Unified: all schools closed 10/29
Mt. Baldy Joint: all schools closed - until further notice
Redlands Unified: all schools closed 10/29 Click Here
Rialto Unified: all schools closed for the rest of the week, will reopen 11/03
Rim of the World Unified: all schools closed - until further notice
San Bernardino City Unified: all schools closed through 10/29
Yucaipa-Calimesa Joint Unified: all schools closed 10/29
Chaffey Community College: main campus and off campus sites in Chino, Fontana, and Ontario closed 10/28, will reopen 10/29
California State University, San Bernardino: closed through 10/28, will reopen 10/29
For regular updates regarding school and districts closures, visit the San Bernardino County Superintendent of Schools Web site or call Communications at (909) 386-2413.
Redlands Unified School District - Closed 10-29-03

Special

Southern California Edison has announced that it may take the unprecedented step of shutting down power in bark beetle-infested forests in San Bernardino and Riverside counties under hazardous conditions of high, sustained winds and low humidity. SCE’s new protective outage policy is an extraordinary precautionary measure to reduce the risk to lives and property.

It affects some 31,000 SCE customers in the San Bernardino and San Jacinto mountains, where more than a million trees are dead or dying. When high winds strike the bark beetle-infested forest, weakened tree limbs and other material
are more likely to fall or get blown into SCE facilities. This could result in wildfires. Depending on the duration of these conditions, outages could last from several hours to several days.

Intensive communication efforts are underway to notify affected customers, property owners, public safety agencies, legislators and other parties regarding the need to implement this unprecedented safety measure.

Structures Threatened

Residences Threatened: 50,000
Commercial Properties Threatened: 2,000

Agencies Involved

CDF, US Forest Service, California Highway Patrol, San Bernardino County Fire Department, Southern California Edison, Dept of Corrections, San Bernardino Sheriff, Red Cross, Animal Shelter, San Bernardino City Fire Department, OES, Caltrans, Southern California Gas Company

Contact Forest Service Information Number 909-383-5688
San Bernardino County Information number 909-355-8800
328 posted on 10/29/2003 2:32:06 AM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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A website where you can thank the firefighters who are working hard on these fires is located at http://www.incidentcontrol.com/firethanks.html

Please, do take the time to thank these hard-working men and women for the effort they are putting into saving homes, businesses, and property! They're putting their lives at risk for all of us.
329 posted on 10/29/2003 2:35:07 AM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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To: Ladypixel
"2 confirmed deaths of seniors related to stress"

I saw the story about the 93 year old guy who had a heart attack and died while he watched his house burn. bummer.
330 posted on 10/29/2003 2:37:01 AM PST by wolficatZ (___><))))*>____\0/____/|____"flipper to the rescue...")
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Scanner:

Spot fire just behind Crestline School in the brush.
331 posted on 10/29/2003 2:39:04 AM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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To: wolficatZ
Both stress deaths were older folks; the other one was in his 70's. :(
332 posted on 10/29/2003 2:39:43 AM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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To: Ladypixel
Correction to scanner report:

Crestline Rd., behind the school, is where the spot fire is.
333 posted on 10/29/2003 2:40:54 AM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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Scanner report:

"Mike, what our actual concern is that we don't have anything other than structure protections up here. We don't have anything to hold 330. We need to be thinking about holding Highway 330."

Static interfered with next report:
"... might have... we've got most of the strike team resting, I'd like to keep them here as long as I can, that's why the timeframe here is important. If we can wait a couple hours, then we can do that."

"Well, uh... it ought to have been plugged into the day plan for some type of holding on 330."

334 posted on 10/29/2003 2:43:31 AM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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To: Ladypixel
Scanner reports from the mountain:

(static)
"...Crestline, but we're going to have to wait until morning when we have aerial and get everything we can on that... (static) get on Running Springs..."

"If this heats up, it's going to make one run after another on the east fork of Miller Canyon..."

"We have, I think we have, about three handcrews up here that we can put on 'em at about 330, and a few fire crews and maybe a strike team..."

"Can you make your strike team available to come up here at 330?"

"With the group operating out of Running Springs, the structure group, might be able to be holding..."

"Tomorrow when they get in here, there'll be three more ready to go..."

"Have them tie in with Running Springs structure group on 330..."

"What is the strike team group coming up on the other side of (static burst)"

"Uh, 9410 Charlie."

"(static) Country structure group, can you confirm the structure group coming up?"

"Structure group copy."

[Editor's note: I believe they're referring to Highway 330 in all of this, not 3:30am.]
335 posted on 10/29/2003 2:57:26 AM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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To: Ladypixel; All
I heard on KOGO that people with livestock/horses who need
to evacuate San Diego area can use facilties/pens/stables etc.
 at Imperial Valley Fairgrounds
 

336 posted on 10/29/2003 2:58:53 AM PST by wolficatZ (___><))))*>____\0/____/|____"flipper to the rescue...")
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To: Ladypixel
Scanner report from the mountain (continued from last post):

"Uh, we've got active fire out here already at the end of [sounded like mmsoonga?] I'm probably going to pull that strike team back here again..."

"Yeah, Engine (number) was working down by [static] creek, if you can just get 'em on line and pull them out of there...?"

"Spot on 30, we're on it now..."

(pause, scattered unit number contacts)

"Phones will not work out there right now..."

"[Unit number], uh, after you've cleared the incident, and when you have the opportunity, can you try to place a call to the command center? Uh... Very low priority..."

"21715 Ridge Drive. Also, communications may be heavy in that area..."

337 posted on 10/29/2003 3:06:37 AM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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To: Ladypixel
Scanner:

CHP reports a flareup at mile marker 15.8
338 posted on 10/29/2003 3:08:02 AM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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Scanner report

"Can I get a quick update from the unit chief as to what's going on in the air here?"

"Confirmative, Unit chief's going to be on national, gonna be on in about twenty minutes..."
339 posted on 10/29/2003 3:10:41 AM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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To: Ladypixel
17780 S. Mesa, Palmer Valley area - people stuck in structure. Apparently went back in after being told that they were supposed to evacuate.

53 year old female, 11 year old grandson, trapped in structure currently.
340 posted on 10/29/2003 3:12:29 AM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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