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Southern California Fires -- Live Thread 10/29

Posted on 10/28/2003 11:00:04 PM PST by lainie

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To: CedarDave
It is probably time to file a class action suit against The Sierra Club and Earth First. I would love to get these morons into court under cross examination after testimony from a zillion forestry experts.....

Even home gardners know that one must thin their plants in order to gain a bumper crop. Healthy forests cannot survive in crowded conditions.

The emotional Hippys in these organizaitons are no more than moronic tools that promote one disaster after another.

I was wondering what more the Clinton Legacy could destroy. His executive orders that set aside millions of acres may eventually destroy all of our forests........

I would love to place him in front of a TV screen with all doors locked and require him to watch the video of the fireman spraying water on a burning bunny......

If his office has an E-Mail address, I wonder if I would be arrested if I expressed my opinion of his idiocy?
2,301 posted on 10/29/2003 7:07:06 PM PST by finch
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To: FourPeas
He's either being evac'd to Loma Linda or Arrowhead Regional Medical Center.

Scanner: Copy just tell me which hospital
2,302 posted on 10/29/2003 7:07:06 PM PST by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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To: FourPeas
He's either being evac'd to Loma Linda or Arrowhead Regional Medical Center.

Scanner: Copy just tell me which hospital
2,303 posted on 10/29/2003 7:07:08 PM PST by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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To: All
FYI, there is VERY LITTLE posting of any new fires on CHP site tonight; and VERY LITTLE updating re any present fires on CHP site, either.
2,304 posted on 10/29/2003 7:07:12 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: FourPeas
He's either being evac'd to Loma Linda or Arrowhead Regional Medical Center.

Scanner: Copy just tell me which hospital
2,305 posted on 10/29/2003 7:07:29 PM PST by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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FF, tying in line by Miller Creek, near Lake Silverwood, had to pull out because of snags falling, has good plan for tomorrow to tie in from 173 to crestline
2,306 posted on 10/29/2003 7:07:34 PM PST by spectr17 (Veni, Vedi, Velcro. I came, I saw, I stuck around)
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To: FourPeas
Oh Lord....Julian is not out of danger, nor is Descanso, Pine Hills.. Lots of flareups. The winds are so unpredictable.
2,307 posted on 10/29/2003 7:08:07 PM PST by Mrs.Liberty ("Oh people, this is freedom! "...Liberated Iraqi man, 09 APR 2003)
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To: CedarDave
It is probably time to file a class action suit against The Sierra Club and Earth First. I would love to get these morons into court under cross examination after testimony from a zillion forestry experts.....

Even home gardners know that one must thin their plants in order to gain a bumper crop. Healthy forests cannot survive in crowded conditions.

The emotional Hippys in these organizaitons are no more than moronic tools that promote one disaster after another.

I was wondering what more the Clinton Legacy could destroy. His executive orders that set aside millions of acres may eventually destroy all of our forests........

I would love to place him in front of a TV screen with all doors locked and require him to watch the video of the fireman spraying water on a burning bunny......

If his office has an E-Mail address, I wonder if I would be arrested if I expressed my opinion of his idiocy?
2,308 posted on 10/29/2003 7:08:20 PM PST by finch
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To: nicmarlo
Off Ramp??????
2,309 posted on 10/29/2003 7:09:03 PM PST by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: ridesthemiles
Is there any way to stop the bark beetles? Say for instance a pesticide or would the enviros say that it would kill too many other insects?

I'm jsut curious.
2,310 posted on 10/29/2003 7:09:14 PM PST by azGOPgal (God Bless America)
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To: lainie
You're right :-) I'm just flapping my gums. er, fingers.

That's OK. Plenty of people would be very upset to hear it, since it implies that they FF's are goofing off. Nobody cares about the 20 hours of work - its the 1/2 hour of chit-chat that upsets them.

I'm in the electric utility business and its the same here. Lots of coordination and behind the scenes stuff going on. Sometimes, there's lulls in activity as all the pieces of a puzzle are assembled before actually performing the work.

2,311 posted on 10/29/2003 7:09:37 PM PST by meyer
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To: Mrs.Liberty
Oh Lord....Julian is not out of danger, nor is Descanso, Pine Hills.. Lots of flareups. The winds are so unpredictable.

Per local KUSI 9 news.

2,312 posted on 10/29/2003 7:09:46 PM PST by Mrs.Liberty ("Oh people, this is freedom! "...Liberated Iraqi man, 09 APR 2003)
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To: CedarDave
It is probably time to file a class action suit against The Sierra Club and Earth First. I would love to get these morons into court under cross examination after testimony from a zillion forestry experts.....

Even home gardners know that one must thin their plants in order to gain a bumper crop. Healthy forests cannot survive in crowded conditions.

The emotional Hippys in these organizaitons are no more than moronic tools that promote one disaster after another.

I was wondering what more the Clinton Legacy could destroy. His executive orders that set aside millions of acres may eventually destroy all of our forests........

I would love to place him in front of a TV screen with all doors locked and require him to watch the video of the fireman spraying water on a burning bunny......

If his office has an E-Mail address, I wonder if I would be arrested if I expressed my opinion of his idiocy?
2,313 posted on 10/29/2003 7:09:49 PM PST by finch
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To: nicmarlo
Essential service are always the first to be cut. It "incentivises" the peons to pay more taxes. Strangely, bloated bureaucracies are immune...
2,314 posted on 10/29/2003 7:10:01 PM PST by null and void
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To: ridesthemiles
Freeway offramp.....the lane used to get off the freeway. Then, there's the freeway onramp, the one used to get on the freeway. : )
2,315 posted on 10/29/2003 7:10:24 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: CedarDave
A real bargain -- boy, I'll say.
2,317 posted on 10/29/2003 7:10:58 PM PST by lainie
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To: sf4dubya
Good, to the point, anti-envirowhacko billboards here:

WaterfortheWest.org

2,318 posted on 10/29/2003 7:11:01 PM PST by CedarDave (I'm a recovering environmentalist - does anyone know of a 12-step program I can join?)
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To: lainie
Well, here in Washington (Mt. Adams) IF the forestry dept. or private timber companies that own the land had been allowed to spray pesticide and then cut trees that were infested with the beetles very early on it could have been stopped, or slowed greatly. BUT NOOOOOOOOOOO, can't go cutting a tree down, even if it's diseased. Now, (about 10 years too late) you can look at the mountain and see entire swaths of "red" (dead) trees. Large areas of beetle kill. It's just massive amounts of essentially dry kindling; a massive fire waiting to happen.

Now the beetle kill is spreading down into the valley (where I live) at the base of the Mt. The forestry dept, just a few months ago, put out these trap boxes, to catch bugs to get a count. We just laughed.

2,319 posted on 10/29/2003 7:11:27 PM PST by Oorang ( If guns are outlawed, can we use swords?)
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To: spectr17
Red Flag wx conditions for Crestline/Arrowhead/Running Springs

winds 40 mph and erratic
2,320 posted on 10/29/2003 7:11:43 PM PST by petuniasevan
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