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To: Luis Gonzalez
Wow are we all over the field. If you consider our borders secure you are wrong. Hundreds daily cross over, some are captured and returned but most make it to the US, and those that are returned try again and again until they make it.

With "Voter Motor" and the fact that illegals can get drivers licenses the voter rolls are no longer for citizens but all licensed drivers.

Yes our eceonomy is being impacted. Wages are being driven down, unemployment is up and not coming down. States are paying huge sums for the education and medical needs of illegals. 41.5% of illegals in California make use of major welfare programs while only 14.2% of native Californians do. Also Texas spends $1.03 Billon a year for education alone for the education of illegals.

Yes 9-11 had a huge impact on the economy but alas that isn't the bases of this conversation. Yes the economy is coming back for some but try to tell that to those who work in the trades, i.e., construction, warehousing and many others that have been taken over by illegals.

I support Bush in many ways but his handling or lack of handling of this crushing problem speaks volumes.

446 posted on 10/29/2003 5:16:59 AM PST by engrpat
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To: engrpat
"If you consider our borders secure you are wrong."

In the history of the United States, our borders have never been closed, which I imagine is the only solution that you will find acceptable...doing that is impossible, it would bring down our economy, and destroy our freedoms. Using the armed forces to close them is unlawful, as it violates the Posse Comitatus Act, if we feel it necessary to violate that act, then we MUST declare war on Mexico. No way.

"With "Voter Motor" and the fact that illegals can get drivers licenses the voter rolls are no longer for citizens but all licensed drivers."

That's California's problem, not the nation's.

"Yes our eceonomy is being impacted. Wages are being driven down, unemployment is up and not coming down."

You don't know history, do you?

Can you name one period of recession in the history of the US that we have never recovered?

Or are you so naive to think that ecomomies continually grow, never adjusting themselves?

"States are paying huge sums for the education and medical needs of illegals."

Because State politicians are enacting one after the other program entitling aliens to benefits...how is Bush responsible for that?

"41.5% of illegals in California make use of major welfare programs while only 14.2% of native Californians do."

I have a problem with 100% pf those people having access to my money...why don't you?

You make it seem as if somehow the illegals are doing something wrong...wake up, the problem is the fact that the programs exist, not the legal status of the people abusing them, nor the percentage!

By the way, how come no one ever oncludes in the formula the billions of dollars saved on lowered costs to the users facilitated by the lower wages earned by immigrants?

In your naive world, the Feds are reponsible for every problem faced by the States, not so.

451 posted on 10/29/2003 5:44:22 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Those who think they know, really piss off those of us who truly do.)
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