Till death us do part... (Michael Schiavo)

WorldMag.com ^ | July 21, 2001 | Lynn Vincent

[MVV]

An oldie but worth another read FReepers. After last night's interview on Larry King Live, I felt the need to do some digging on MS and "his girlfriend", you mean "fiance", another contradiction of MS, "no, we're in no rush to get married, were happy where were at".

LIAR!

[MVV]

...Mr. Schiavo is now engaged to Jodi Centonze...

Jodi is far more than just a "girlfriend". I was shocked that LK didn't even know that MS had a child by this women and another one on the way.

[Deep_6]

Amazing!

With all that was posted, some people do not read a
thing more than they care to know. They seem to
prefer to wallow in the pits of the half-truths, to perhaps
rid themselves of some hidden guilt they might have.

Terri can not swallow in a voluntary manner. She 
makes swallowing motions involuntarily, just as
her body functions are all involuntary. Her cerebral
cortex is gone and the cavity filled with spinal fluid.

The judge ordered five doctors to give findings. Two
were paid by Terri's "family", two by Terri's husband
and one court ordered neutral. The findings were
conclusive, Terri is in a vegetated state and can not
improve. When there is no cortex, there can be no
improvement. The cerebral cortex can not replenish
itself nor be replaced.

Feeding Terri food/water can cause her to choke to death
unless accomplished via the support system.

In the State of Florida, without a living will to guide
the court, the decision to remove a life support system
is at the discretion of the spouse.

The "feeding tube" in the State of Florida is indeed
considered a "life support system" if life cannot be
supported without it. It has been proven that Terri
cannot swallow voluntarily and will not "learn" to
do that, due to her missing cortex.

There has been no "test" by Terri's "family" that
could ever be reproduced for the courts. The court
had been offered a taped incident, but that incident
has not and can not apparently be repeated for the
court or court appointed Physician.

Comments from posters telling of a swallowing
incident are simply restating the tales of Terri's
"family". There has not been one physician to
give testimony to that "fact", nor give testimony
that it is at all possible for a person missing their
cerebral cortex to be able to swallow in a voluntary
manner.

Removing any "life support system" results in the
life it is supporting; to die naturally. That "natural"
manner of dying can be of the loss of breath, the
loss of heart function, the loss of the ability to
breath, the loss of the process of nourishment,
etc, etc. There is no "natural" way to die, other
than to die. Every method of life support. once
removed, will cause the participant to die.

If Terri was on a respirator,  the cries would be
over her loss of ability to breath without if
it were to be removed. If Terri was on a Cardiac
machine, the cries would be for her "untimely
demise" if removed from it, causing her heart to stop
beating.

There is no "easy way to die", "naturally" or
"un-naturally". It is not a pleasant scene to see,
but it happens daily and will happen to you and
I, eventually.

Terri has been in a vegetated state for over 13 years.

Her soul is now being forced to remain inside
that shell of a body longer.

It's purgatory; government ordered purgatory.

 

[NYer]

I was shocked that LK didn't even know that MS had a child by this women and another one on the way.

Correction ... #2 was born a few days ago. Interesting to see how that child's birth would have coincided with Terri's death, had the governor not intervened!

BIG MISTAKE MADE BY MICHAEL SCHIAVO ON LARRY KING. Larry mentioned that he would like to send CNN cameras over to the hospice to videotape Terri. Michael looked at Felos and both shook their heads NO! Told Larry they would supply him with tapes already submitted to the courts. When Larry pushed to send cameras in, Felos mentioned something about protecting Terri's dignity. Gotcha! Good job, Larry!

TERRI SCHIAVO PING! ­ let me know if you want on/off this ping list

Man "finds" Wife unconscious.

Man keeps Wife unconscious.

Man gets malpractice money for Wife.

Man wants Wife's money.

Man wants Wife dead so Man can have money.

Man gets Lawyer.

Lawyer is/was Hospice Board Member.

Lawyer promises Man that Wife will die at the Hospice...

[shhrubbery!]

some argued that patients who couldn't feed themselves had descended to a subhuman moral rank with a "quality of life" no longer worth sustaining

Lebensunwertes Leben.

[shhrubbery!]

When Larry pushed to send cameras in, Felos mentioned something about protecting Terri's dignity.

Right, they're so concerned about Terri's "privacy" and "dignity" that they talk about hygiene problems "between her legs" on national television.

[Diva Betsy Ross]

Right, MS claims that the cameras are not allowed for Terri's privacy and right to dignity, all the while he describes to us a foul smell that comes from between Terri's legs , and how she can't be cleaned properly. He says "sorry to be so graphic, but that is what this is all about." What a lying POS. Anyone who found him truthful alst night, has some real soul searching to do.

[syriacus]

Right, they're so concerned about Terri's "privacy" and "dignity" that they talk about hygiene problems "between her legs" on national television.

Good catch! For an RN, Michael was very "unclinical" in his discussion.

[MVV]

...Correction ... #2 was born a few days ago. Interesting to see how that child's birth would have coincided with Terri's death, had the governor not intervened!

My apologies, I didn't hear that Jodi had the baby a few days ago, was it a son or another daughter? Did you see how MS avoided the topic of his "girlfriend", you mean fiance last night?

[syriacus]

From the article: But though her condition is considered "terminal" according to Florida statute

What human being is not "terminal"? We all will die some day.

I think Florida doesn't realize this could be construed as offering shelter in their hospices to any homeless intransigent heroin addict.

Heroin addiction is a disease that leads to an early death, too.

[Sunshine Sister]

Can't foul oders be taken care of with a BATH? MS should be ashamed of himself.

[syriacus]

When Larry pushed to send cameras in, Felos mentioned something about protecting Terri's dignity. Gotcha! Good job, Larry!

I agree. I also liked King's suggestion to Mike that he take a lie detector test to eliminate doubts that Terri said, "No tubes for me."

[ecru]

MS...does that stand for Minion-of-Satan?

Oh, and deep_6...why did you put her "family" in quotes?
(p.s. its vegetative)

[syriacus]

If Terri was on a respirator,  the cries would be over her loss of ability to breath without if it were to be removed. If Terri was on a Cardiac machine, the cries would be for her "untimely demise" if removed from it, causing her heart to stop beating.

Not really.

[MVV]

Good one.

[syriacus]

The findings were conclusive, Terri is in a vegetated state and can not improve.

Not really.

From the article above:

Mrs. Schiavo often turns her head purposefully when people speak to her, according to affidavits filed this year by six neurologists.

[shhrubbery!]

Can't foul oders be taken care of with a BATH? MS should be ashamed of himself.

Yes. When I worked in a nursing home as a teenager, we used to bathe disabled patients in a special whirlpool bath.

The bath had a hydraulic lift that allowed patients to be dipped into the bath without a lot of lifting. You let those patients have a good soak and they came out nice and clean.

But remember that Schiavo wouldn't even allow Terri to receive antibiotics for a bladder infection! If the poor woman suffered from a purulent infection, it was his fault!

What's foul-smelling here is Michael Schiavo, not Terri.

[FITZ]

That year, he'd cut off the Schindlers' access to her medical records. In addition, he refused to allow any physicians to examine her without his specific approval.

He's obviously got something he's hiding. You'd think he'd want to open them up --- remove all doubt. His comments about her hygiene prove he's not worried about her dignity or privacy.

[MVV]

...Right, they're so concerned about Terri's "privacy" and "dignity" that they talk about hygiene problems "between her legs" on national television.

Yes, that was another low blow. How dare him? And he professes undying love for Terri, give me a freggin' break.

Glenn Beck is talking about the LKL interview right now, tune in.

[FITZ]

Her cerebral cortex is gone and the cavity filled with spinal fluid.

I'd only believe that if I saw the X-rays or Cat scans myself --- or at least have some doctor Michael wasn't paying to make that claim.