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Attack of the Nazi Trolls: A Lesson for Message Board Moderators
Richardpoe.com ^ | 10-27-03 | Richard Poe

Posted on 10/27/2003 11:53:33 AM PST by SJackson

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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
hear! hear!

To any fellow who has an idea how we all ought to live and concurrently denies the existence of God I would like to direct 2 questions. Why? and Who sez?

201 posted on 10/27/2003 3:49:48 PM PST by aloysius89 (as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla; OWK; tpaine
In the first place, I have to notice an erroneous assertion of more than one writer, namely, that I have stated the active Molecules to be animated. This mistake has probably arisen from my having communicated the facts in the same order in which they occurred, accompanied by the views which presented themselves in the different stages of the investigation; and in one case, from my having adopted the language, in referring to the opinion, of another inquirer into the first branch of the subject.

Although I endeavored strictly to confine myself to the statement of the facts observed, yet in speaking of the active Molecules I have not been able, in all cases, to avoid the introduction of hypothesis; for such is the supposition, that the equally active particles of greater size, and frequently of very different form, are primary compounds of these Molecules,-- a supposition which, though professedly conjectural, I regret having so much insisted on, especially as it may seem connected with the opinion of the absolute identity of the Molecules, from whatever source derived.

On this latter subject the only two points that I endeavored to ascertain, were their size and figure: and although I was, upon the whole, inclined to think that in these respects the Molecules were similar from whatever substances obtained, yet the evidence then adduced in support of the supposition was far from satisfactory; and I may add, that I am still less satisfied now that such is the fact. But even had the uniformity of the Molecules in those two points been absolutely established, it did not necessarily follow, nor have I any where stated, as has been imputed to me, that they also agreed in all their other properties and functions.

202 posted on 10/27/2003 3:55:38 PM PST by bvw
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To: AmishDude; Avoiding_Sulla
Avoiding_Sulla;
IIRC, how come we haven't crossed paths before?

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Because you are an individual with extraordinary taste.
199 -ishdude-






Nope. -- We have crossed paths..
Sulla just happens to an individual with an extraordinarily bad memory.

Yours is fine though. Still smarting from our last spat, are you, ishydude?

203 posted on 10/27/2003 4:04:13 PM PST by tpaine (I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but Arnie won, & politics as usual lost. Yo!)
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To: Romulus
your sites reputation appears to be well earned,
Since you post there too, it must be "your" site as much as mine.

How very funny.

I post for awhile on libertyforum last year in response to one of your multipersonality Jew Haters who frequently accuses me of “controling” FR.

I posted on the other libertarian forum mentioned on this thread recently in response to a thread by the same multi-name, multi forum www worm making essentially the same accusations.

And it turns out the one forum on the internet that’s actually my site is your site. Is the ZOG dead? How do I sell my interest?

I find Jew Haters entertaining, I’ll respond to them when I feel they’re tainting mainstream Republican causes, the stuff that gets people elected. But as to waddling in their muck on the margins of society, pure entertainment I engage in as the mood strikes me.

I’m curious, there are a lot of supporters of Israel on FR, and yet you pings only Jews (SJackson; veronica; Alouette; yonif; dennisw; Yehuda) to your post. I hope you’re not suggesting there’s Jew hatred under that veneer of “anti-zionism” at the forum. That's nasty stuff.

204 posted on 10/27/2003 4:07:02 PM PST by SJackson
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To: exmarine
Communist marxist trolls aren't a problem? Just Nazis? After all, they're all socialists. ;)

I agree. But Nazi or commie, they're all fascists.

206 posted on 10/27/2003 4:08:43 PM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson
"I will add the sad fate of LibertyForum.org to my growing list of reasons for rethinking whether or not I wish to continue calling myself a "libertarian."

Dunno, it was support for totally open borders that did it for me. I have heard there may be some disagreements by Libertarians concerning this viewpoint.
207 posted on 10/27/2003 4:08:47 PM PST by JohnSmithee
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To: bvw; All
Well, -- I guess that settles the "active Molecules" debate.. --
208 posted on 10/27/2003 4:09:11 PM PST by tpaine (I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but Arnie won, & politics as usual lost. Yo!)
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To: Cato
You are losing viewers, writers, readers and monetary support to LibertyForum.com and that's a fact Jack!

I don't see how FR could be losing cash to LF since John Deere doesn't accept donations.

209 posted on 10/27/2003 4:10:57 PM PST by Selmo
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To: SJackson
I’m curious, there are a lot of supporters of Israel on FR, and yet you pings only Jews

Jewdar, gotta be Jewdar.

210 posted on 10/27/2003 4:12:55 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: Catspaw
I noted you were left off :>)
211 posted on 10/27/2003 4:13:28 PM PST by SJackson
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To: Brian S
Why ping you?

You did not respond on the thread in question (and neither did Yonif) so I can't really consider either of you straight shooters. I did however, point out that SJackson fails to press the abuse button or the Ad Mod fail to ban people who post such anti-American garbage.

I welcome you to the forum on the other hand-- being a libertarian and all. SJackson just believe some anti-Americanism is more equal than others.
212 posted on 10/27/2003 4:13:38 PM PST by JohnGalt (Attention Pseudocons: Wilsonianrepublic.com is still available)
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To: Jim Robinson
You know who I am... I know who you are.

In spite of the assertions of you detractors, I believe you have your nation's best interests at heart. Always have believed this. Pushed the point home for years even when your former friends called you a thief and a liar and fraud. All a bunch of shit laid at your feet by disgruntled folk. Never participated in it, and did my best to reign it in when I saw it.

You and I don't agree about everything, but there's a difference between disagreeing and smearing. You've taken your share of abuse. (I know what its like)

I don't contest your dominion over your website. In fact I celebrate it. It's yours. You built it. You nurtured it. It is yours to do with as you please. You want to control the content.. that's your call. You want to make a few bucks, I personally think you deserve it. (I am a capitalist to my very core)... You want to toss conspiracy nuts and leftists out on their ass, more power to ya.

As you know, I disagree with your take on the best way back to a limited republic that protects inidividual rights. You think the pubbies are the way. For the life of me, I can't figure out why. They spend like liberals, they cave on social programs, and gun control, and actually sponsor intrusive legislation that erodes our legitimate rights. On this we'll have to agree to disagree. (you didn't always disagree... and in fact were once one of the most vocal opposition voices on FR). But times and circumstances change.

I'm not here to "harp on victimhood". I made a passing comment on a thread that I didn't even post. I talked about your past behavior. I stand by those comments. You did in fact encourage the more unseemly elements at FR, to find greener pastures on LF. Honestly it was a pretty smart move on your part. Get rid of the nuissances here, while giving FR folks something to point at and despise.

I don't think it's all that big a deal really. We'll get over it. But it does create a little bit of an unfair situation. LF gets characterized as a skinhead site by those who present the worst crap as characteristic of the website as a whole. You used to hate that when it happened to FR.

But be that as it may, the site is devoted to free speech, and will remain that way. Two websites, two philosophies. Censorship and control, versus free speech and open content.

One is easier (but in my opinion less rewarding, as it can only be devoted to truth as dictated by central authority).

The other is a harder road. You have to deal with real dissent.. muck-throwing kidney-punching nasty-ass dissent..

It isn't easy... but...

The truth doesn't need the support of authority..

As always, I wish you continued success.

213 posted on 10/27/2003 4:21:48 PM PST by OWK
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To: tpaine
Still smarting from our last spat, are you, ishydude?

"Smart" is hardly a word I associate with you.

"Spat", however, comes readily to mind.

Perhaps it is a mistake to give you the attention you so desire.

Hard to tell . . .

214 posted on 10/27/2003 4:25:17 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: JohnGalt
You did not respond on the thread in question (and neither did Yonif) so I can't really consider either of you straight shooters. I did however, point out that SJackson fails to press the abuse button or the Ad Mod fail to ban people who post such anti-American garbage.

I welcome you to the forum on the other hand-- being a libertarian and all. SJackson just believe some anti-Americanism is more equal than others.

What are you serial halucinating about?

215 posted on 10/27/2003 4:27:42 PM PST by SJackson
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To: JohnGalt
Why ping you?

I already told you "Why ping you?"...I enjoy the entertainment value when I become part of the topic.

There, I said it again.

Maybe this time "it will take".

216 posted on 10/27/2003 4:32:58 PM PST by Brian S
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To: OWK

You forgot to add "self-governable versus laden with whiney cop-out excuses for poor performance."

217 posted on 10/27/2003 4:33:30 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cato

There's your words, or our lying eyes. Hmmmm. Which do we believe?


218 posted on 10/27/2003 4:33:52 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Dane
You really have a burr up your you know where, that you are not King of FR, IMO.

However true that is, OWK has a strong point. He notes the very reason that made me look at LF: this place became home to rah-rah, ass-kissing sheep unwilling or unable to look deeper than the ever-vanishing differences the R and D machines spend their time and our money arguing about (to say nothing of the rabid attack dogs poised to spring on ME threads).

Say what you like about the assorted scum you'll find at LF, at least they've got the balls to say what they think without a moderator at the draw.

219 posted on 10/27/2003 4:34:50 PM PST by Pistias
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To: aloysius89
Indeed. The societies in which the theoretical discussion of freedom and constitutional law became pursuits for educated gentlemen were societies which had enjoyed hundreds of years of Christian civilization and Christian higher education.

The actual scholarly sources of such speculation had been cultivated by those dedicating themselves to Christian moral principles.
These did take place in non-Christian societies. The casualties of American secular humanist education have been philosophically and spiritually emasculated to the point such disquisitions are impossible. Those who undergo the formal lobotomy do not even believe that "truth" is possible. Moral relativism merely opens the door to everything, including tyrants and genocidal political mass murderers.

220 posted on 10/27/2003 4:36:53 PM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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