[bonesmccoy]

I believe that there were other reports on the CHP site. Any Freepers who posted those reports or saw them ... please repost the info on the arsons here.

[MegaSilver]

This is SICK...

[Brad’s Gramma]

Indexing for later

[aynrandfreak]

Could very well be eco-terrorists. They hit San Diego in the last 2 months.

[Mo1]

Now, KCAL has a reporter who states that officials in San Bernardino County are looking for two white males who were spotted in a gray van sitting on Old Waterman Canyon Road

From the sounds of that .. I'm still thinking ELF

[Cindy]

"FBI Sent Alert on Al Qaeda Forest Fire Plot in Western US)(FLASHBACK: July 2003)
FoxNews ^ | July 12, 2003 | AP
Posted on 10/26/2003 7:32 PM PST by FairOpinion"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1008662/posts

[cartoonistx]

[TheOtherOne]

California Wildfires at a Glance
The Associated Press
Published: Oct 26, 2003

Major California wildfires Sunday:

CEDAR FIRE: (San Diego County)

Size: 100,000 acres.

Homes: About 260 destroyed.

Deaths: Nine.

Containment: 0 percent.

Start: Oct. 25 in eastern San Diego County.

Key facts: Extends to Scripps Ranch, Poway, Miramar Marine Corps Air Station, portions of Santee, Lakeside and Blossom Valley, Poway and Ramona. Air traffic nationwide was disrupted when the fire forced evacuation of a Federal Aviation Administration control center.

Personnel: More than 800 firefighters.

Suppression Cost: No data available.

Cause: Authorities believe a hunter set signal fire when he got lost.

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DULZURA FIRE: (San Diego County)

Size: 15,000 acres.

Homes: None destroyed.

Deaths: None.

Containment: 0 percent.

Start: Oct. 26 in southern San Diego County. Fire crossed the border into Mexico, but no structures were threatened in Tijuana.

Personnel: 300 firefighters.

Suppression costs: No data available.

Cause: Under investigation.

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CAMP PENDLETON: (San Diego County)

Size: 4,695 acres.

Homes: None.

Deaths: None.

Containment: 67 percent.

Start: Oct. 21 on the base north of San Diego.

Key facts: Authorities are downplaying early reports that fire was ignited by live ammunition exercises on the base.

Personnel: 999 firefighters.

Suppression Cost: Not available.

Cause: Under investigation.

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PARADISE FIRE: (San Diego County)

Size: At least 3,000 acres.

Homes: 36 destroyed.

Deaths: Two.

Containment: 0 percent.

Start: Oct. 26 in Valley Center area near Interstate 15.

Key facts: Valley View Casino evacuated.

Personnel: More than 500 firefighters.

Suppression costs: No data available.

Cause: Under investigation.

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GRAND PRIX FIRE: (San Bernardino County)

Size: 35,000 acres.

Homes: 62 destroyed.

Deaths: None.

Containment: 23 percent.

Start: Oct. 21 near San Bernardino National Forest.

Key facts: Mandatory evacuations in Lytle Creek, Mount Baldy, Rialto and parts of Claremont, Upland and other foothill communities of the San Gabriel Mountains.

Personnel: 2,427 firefighters.

Suppression Cost: $6.5 million.

Cause: Arson.

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OLD FIRE: (San Bernardino County)

Size: 15,000 acres.

Homes: 300 homes and 10 commercial buildings destroyed.

Deaths: Two.

Containment: 5 percent.

Start: Oct. 25 near San Bernardino National Forest.

Key facts: Evacuations in foothill areas of San Bernardino and mountain communities, including Crestline and Lake Arrowhead.

Personnel: 917 firefighters.

Suppression Cost: Unknown.

Cause: Under investigation, suspicious origin.

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SIMI VALLEY: (Ventura County)

Size: 80,000 acres.

Homes: Six destroyed, eight damaged.

Deaths: None.

Containment: 0 percent.

Start: Oct. 25.

Key facts: Firefighters are trying to save Ronald Reagan Library. Voluntary evacuations for Moorpark.

Personnel: 599 firefighters.

Suppression Cost: $25,000.

Cause: Under investigation.

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PIRU FIRE: (Ventura County)

Size: 1,300 acres.

Homes: None.

Deaths: None.

Containment: 85 percent.

Start: Oct. 23 west of Lake Piru in Ventura County.

Key facts: The fire in Los Padres National Forest is threatening the Sespe Wilderness and Sespe Condor sanctuary. There are no condors currently in the refuge. Voluntary evacuations in Piru and parts of Fillmore.

Personnel: 780 firefighters.

Suppression Cost: No data available.

Cause: Under investigation.

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VERDALE FIRE: (Los Angeles County)

Size: 9,000 acres.

Homes: None.

Deaths: None.

Containment: 50 percent.

Start: Oct. 24 west of Santa Clarita in northern Los Angeles County.

Key facts: Voluntary evacuations for community of Val Verde Park and parts of Piru. Blaze sparked the Simi Valley fire.

Personnel: 500 firefighters.

Suppression Cost: $1.3 million.

Cause: Under investigation.

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MOUNTAIN FIRE: (Riverside County)

Size: 1,000 acres.

Homes: Two damaged or destroyed.

Deaths: None.

Containment: 0 percent.

Start: Oct. 26 in southern Riverside County.

Key facts: Evacuations ordered for homes near Lake Skinner. Two civilian injuries.

Personnel: 250 firefighters.

Suppression Cost: No data available.

Cause: Under investigation.

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Source: California Department of Forestry and local fire officials.

AP-ES-10-26-03 2317EST

[justa-hairyape]

The Waterman arson fire and its devastating effects, were well coordinated by the arsonist. Timed just when the Santa Anas began blowing through the pass and aimed right at a community. Responding fire units had no time and no chance to save the community. These suspects should also be investigated for the Grand Prix fire, which theoritically could have been a test run for the Waterman.

[xm177e2]

I just assumed it was probably arson/terrorism... but then I remembered that I'm a pessimist.

[Carry_Okie]

Here is the real cause of these fires. It's policy. The racketeering thugs that run the environmental movemint want these people flushed out of those mountains and will burn them out to get it done.

[FlyVet]

The worst wildfire in AZ history, the Rodeo-Chediski fire last year, was started on one end by a lost woman who started a signal fire, and on the other end by Leonard Gregg, on the Ft. Apache reservation. He was a part time firefighter who started the fire so he could make some money. Over 400 homes, over 460,000 acres fried. I remember that another one of the worst last year was started by a forest ranger, who claimed she was burning a letter from her ex in a pit, and it got out of control. Right. The so-called gov protectors seem to be the worst culprits. Why is that?

http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/07/01/western.wildfires/

[KeyTapper]

Here is something I found that shows how the fires have threatened to block the exits from the basin area. Sure hope nothing serious happens that causes the need for people to vacate the entire LA to San Diego area.



Here's the source. Just draw a box around the SoCal area to enlarge the view.

I'm in the Sacramento area and it looks like there are only scattered fires up here, nothing like the southern part of the state. Been lurking and praying for all of you.

[marsh2]

http://www.incidentcontrol.com/#

San Bernardino National Forest
1824 S. Commercenter Circle
San Bernardino, CA 92408

Date: September 9, 2003

INVESTIGATORS SEEK TIPS IN SUSPICIOUS FIRES

San Bernardino... An increase in fire starts on the San Bernardino National Forest is leading arson investigators to seek the public's help in finding the cause of the Bridge Fire and other recent fires. "Earlier this summer, we had a very low rate of fire starts," said arson investigator Ron Huxman. "But in recent weeks we are seeing a very definite increase in the number of man-caused fires, particularly those caused by arson. Obviously we're very concerned about that."

Most of the fires have been along well-travelled roadways, and Huxman believes that the clues are out there to solve many of his cases. "Someone out there drove past these fires in their very early stages, and saw something that may help the investigation," added Huxman. "Whether they saw a vehicle in the area, a person watching, or something else unusual, I'm hoping they'll share that information. Even the smallest bit of information may provide the missing piece needed to solve a puzzle."

In the case of the Bridge Fire, investigators have determined that the fire is man-caused, even though they haven't been able to pinpoint the exact source of the flames. "In arson investigation, we start by ruling things out. We've ruled out lightning, and we know the fire started close to the road, so that makes it suspicious," added Huxman. "Our investigators have been on their hands and knees searching the area around the point of origin for hours, but we haven't yet found any evidence which reveals the specific cause of the fire. "

Investigators will continue to search the area, and to interview witnesses until they've exhausted all leads.

Huxman has learned over the years to be patient in his efforts. "Sometimes it takes years for the pieces to fall into place, but they always do. Particularly when the public gets involved." During his 30 year career with the Forest Service, Huxman has made 21 arson arrests leading to 19 convictions. One case is still pending. "Most of those cases were solved primarily because citizens got involved and shared the information they knew. Taking the time to write down a license number and share it with authorities can give a tremendous boost to an investigation. Vehicle descriptions are also particularly helpful," added Huxman. "I'm hoping for that one phone call that will help me solve this case and prevent future fires." Individuals with information about the Bridge Fire, or any other recent fire may contact Huxman at (909) 884-6634, ext. 3050.

[nicmarlo]

Inland Communications Center


Incident: 1203 Type: Report of Fire
Location: W PALMETTO AV AT ALABAMA ST
Zoom Map: 607 3H
Info as of: 10/27/2003 3:53:37 PM

ADDITIONAL DETAILS
3:30PM - 1039 SBCC
3:29PM - RP ADV D SUSP TO LEAVE - SUSP NO LONGER 1097, BUT SMALL FIRE IS STARTED
3:28PM - AMA STARTING A BRUSH FIRE

RESPONDING OFFICERS STATUS
3:51PM - CHP Unit On Scene

[nicmarlo]

1989 2:58PM Structure or Grass Fire SR71 JNO W MISSION BLVD Southern Division

Incident: 1989 Type: Structure or Grass Fire
Location: SR71 JNO W MISSION BLVD
Zoom Map: 640 2F
Info as of: 10/27/2003 3:16:40 PM

ADDITIONAL DETAILS
3:12PM - SUSP 2 POSS CARRYING A RED GAS CAN / POSS RUNNING TOWARDS HUMANE WY / WHERE THE HUMANE SOCIETY IS
3:10PM - RP SAW A FIRE W/A LOT OF SMOKE AND 2 PTY S RUNNING FRM THE FIRE

[nicmarlo]

Incident: 1119 Type: Report of Fire
Location: LACC (San Bernardino area)
Zoom Map: Click Here
Info as of: 10/27/2003 3:05:06 PM

ADDITIONAL DETAILS
3:01PM - RP ADVSD FIRE IS UNDERNEATH THE 71 NEAR THE RR TRACKS
3:00PM - 1039 POMONA PD
3:00PM - SUSPECTS POSSIBLY RUNNING TOWARDS HUMANE WY - WHERE THE HUMANE SOCIETY IS
2:58PM - RP ADVSD HE SAW FIRE AND ALOT OF SMOKE AND BOTH OF THESE PTY S WERE RUNNING FROM THE FIRE

[slimer]

FBI: al-Qaeda detainee spoke of fire plot

[nicmarlo]

Incident: 0984 Type: Structure or Grass Fire
Location: WB I8 AT CAMINO CANADA (El Cajon)
Zoom Map: 1252 1D
Info as of: 10/27/2003 7:16:03 PM

ADDITIONAL DETAILS
7:15PM - 1039 HRTLND FD
7:15PM - PER RP SHE SAW PERSON START FIRE

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