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Judge in Life or Death Case Considered Conservative, Compassionate (Terri Schiavo Case)
AP | 10/25/03 | Vickie Chachere

Posted on 10/25/2003 9:46:41 AM PDT by kattracks

PINELLAS PARK, Fla. (AP) - Pinellas Circuit Judge George Greer has been called a murderer and equated with the Roman governor who condemned Jesus to death. He has been vilified in Internet chat rooms and has received death threats by e-mail.

Greer is the judge who granted Terri Schiavo's husband permission to remove her feeding tube in one of the longest and most contentious right-to-life battles. His decision was second-guessed and essentially overridden by the Florida Legislature and Gov. Jeb Bush last week.

Following judicial code of conduct, Greer has been silent about the public debate over the Schiavo case and the criticism he has faced. He declined a request for an interview.

But those who know the 61-year-old probate judge say he is a prudent jurist who probably agonized over his decisions.

"He is such a good and decent man and to have this kind of rap being put on him right now is so unfair," said Mary Repper, a political strategist who has helped Greer's campaigns. "If ever this was to be put into the hands of someone who is going to be fair and do the right thing, George was the right person."

Through four years of hearings and legal wrangling, Greer considered Michael Schiavo's request to remove his severely brain-damaged wife's feeding tube against the wishes of her parents, Bob and Mary Schindler.

A heart attack in 1990 left Terri Schiavo, now 39, in a persistently vegetative state and court-appointed doctors believe there is no hope of recovery. Greer ruled Michael Schiavo showed "clear and convincing" evidence his wife did not want to be kept alive artificially and permitted him to end her nourishment.

The extraordinary reversal of his ruling by Bush and the Legislature will now become the central issue in a new legal fight over the separation of powers that will be waged to overturn what's now known as "Terri's Law."

While Greer has become a key figure in the international news event, few outside of Pinellas County know the man who friends describe as conservative, religious and particularly sensitive to protecting the disabled.

Greer is legally blind and cannot drive. While his condition doesn't hamper his abilities on the bench, colleagues and others said in interviews last week it gives him a perspective in dealing with the rights of the impaired few jurists have.

"He is so conscientious anyway, you put a case involving human life in front of him and it makes him even more careful," said Ed Armstrong, a Clearwater attorney who describes Greer as his mentor. "It's been an ordeal for him too."

Greer is a member of a conservative Baptist church which recently advocated keeping Terri Schiavo alive in a church newsletter. A moderate Republican, Greer served on the Pinellas County Commission for eight years before running unopposed for a circuit judgeship in 1992.

Repper and former Pinellas County Commissioner Charles Rainey said the fact that no one opposed the quiet, studious Greer speaks volumes for how well he is regarded in Pinellas County.

"He's doing what the law says to do. I am sure he struggles with himself, knowing George," Rainey said. "The man did everything he was asked to do as far as checking out the case, checking out the medical situation and he did it two or three times."

Greer is known for answering his own telephone in chambers and until recently being easily accessible to the press, characteristics that his friends say are holdovers from his days of being an elected official.

Born in Brooklyn, N.Y., Greer graduated from Clearwater High School. He graduated from the University of Florida law school and was a successful zoning attorney in Clearwater when he was elected to the county commission in 1984. He been a judge since 1992 and is up for re-election next year.

Michael Schiavo first asked the probate court for permission to disconnect his wife's feeding tube in 1998, saying his wife had told him that she never wanted to be kept alive artificially. Her parents disagree. Two other judges handled the case before it was passed to Greer.

Greer turned down repeated requests from the Schindlers to order therapy for their daughter or to dismiss Michael Schiavo as her guardian. Just this week, Greer set a hearing in November, nearly a year after the Schindlers' last motion for a new guardian, to discuss that issue.

The Schindlers' attorneys attempted to have Greer removed from the case in recent weeks, saying he had improperly discussed the case with others. An appeals court decided Greer would stay.

The Schiavo case is not the only time Greer has been faced with the issue of removing a feeding tube from a vegetative patient. In 2000, the wife and grown children of St. Petersburg attorney Blair Clark faced off in Greer's courtroom after Clark collapsed from a heart attack.

Clark had a living will which said he did not want a feeding tube or respirator if he was determined to be in a permanent vegetative state. But his Chinese-born wife - who disputed her husband was vegetative and believed he could hear her - wanted to try acupuncture and medical techniques from her homeland.

Greer allowed an acupuncturist to administer a treatment session, and then granted Clark's children permission to withdraw their father's feeding tube. Clark's wife did not appeal the decision.

Clark died within days of the tube's removal.

"He was sympathetic and empathetic to the fact that we had somebody who in her culture believed in these alternative methods," said Doug Williamson, who represented the Clark children.

William Mayhew, who represented Clark's wife Ping, said he too believes Greer simply followed the law.

"Many judges would have figured out a way to dump (the Schiavo) case," said Pinellas County Sheriff Everett Rice, Greer's friend for more than 20 years. "But he stuck by it. He deserves a medal for enduring that alone."



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KEYWORDS: judgegreer; terrischiavo
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To: Pegita
Amen
101 posted on 10/25/2003 9:11:50 PM PDT by luv2lurkhere
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To: sweetliberty
I doubt the insurance companies would be interested in doing anything....they have to pay out. Now, if there was a provable murder (which hasn't occurred, perhaps attempted), then they would have either requested or been directed to place any life insurance funds into the court to hold pending trial/litigation.
102 posted on 10/25/2003 9:14:12 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: FR_addict
OK, so it 's looking like it was a mix-up, which is understandable on these many bazillions of threads. If you do hear otherwise, please ping me, alright? There are many other women on the board, and I suppose it could be one of them, but I would expect that Jonathan Alpert, who works on the hospicepatients.org site would have uncovered this before any of us.
103 posted on 10/25/2003 9:14:29 PM PDT by Ohioan from Florida
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To: EternalVigilance
Amen to your post #61. Seems pretty simple, but for some reason, a lot of people don't get it. Are they really that stupid or could it be that they choose NOT to get it?
104 posted on 10/25/2003 9:18:09 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: middie
"The FR self-righteous, boorish bunch of arrogant dunderheads who have the answers to all issues...."

Is this libael ? Can we sue you ?

105 posted on 10/25/2003 9:19:42 PM PDT by gatex
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To: Theodore R.
I just found this:
http://www.clearwaterbar.org/resipsa/march98/judgeS.html

"On a more personal note, the Judge is married to Patricia Greer and is the proud father of twin sons, Jeffery and Jason. Jeffery resides in St. Louis, MO, and Jason resides in Mobile, AL. Both sons miss dad and the great Florida climate. The Judge's parents both passed on in 1991. The Judge has one sister, Margaret, who he speaks of with deep love and admiration. Margaret and her husband reside in Denver, CO."
106 posted on 10/25/2003 9:21:37 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: middie
"...transgressed into the realm of the judiciary...."

Could you give us a quick review of the "real of the judiciary " ?

107 posted on 10/25/2003 9:22:33 PM PDT by gatex
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To: gatex
real = realm
108 posted on 10/25/2003 9:23:41 PM PDT by gatex
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To: sweetliberty
Thanks, although I kinda liked my #62 too...

;-)
109 posted on 10/25/2003 9:24:20 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: PeyersPatches
" I do not believe I have ever seen evil work so hard to murder and cover it up like I am seeing now."

Doesn't seem to me that they're trying all that hard to cover it up. They are as blatant and in your face about it as Al Gore was when he tried to steal the 2000 election.

110 posted on 10/25/2003 9:25:31 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: EternalVigilance
Yeah well, I have found that I tend to get in trouble when I feed the trolls, so I just prefer to ignore them.
111 posted on 10/25/2003 9:26:40 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
Hehe...well, you probably have a point. ;-)
112 posted on 10/25/2003 9:30:18 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: FR_addict
So does this mean that there is no "Patricia ___ Greer" on the hospice board?
113 posted on 10/25/2003 9:30:40 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: nicmarlo
Again, George J. Felos claims there is NO insurance! No one seems to believe him in the least.
114 posted on 10/25/2003 9:32:10 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Brilliant
I see no way that this judge could have concluded that the testimony of the husband that Terri would have wanted to die is "clear and convincing evidence" by itself.

Others gave similar testimony.

To me, it looks like the court just made a judgment that this woman's life is not worth living.

To me, it seems that you, like many others commenting here, choose to base your opinions on emotions and not on facts.

115 posted on 10/25/2003 9:37:58 PM PDT by Normally a Lurker
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To: Theodore R.
I meant Greer.
116 posted on 10/25/2003 9:39:40 PM PDT by isrul
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To: Theodore R.
"So does this mean that there is no "Patricia ___ Greer" on the hospice board?"

It looks like it. I guess it was too good to be true.
117 posted on 10/25/2003 9:42:37 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: Long Cut
LOOK OUT!! With stories like this, people might start to see the judge as....human.

Nope, this judge is political, not human.

118 posted on 10/25/2003 9:43:04 PM PDT by Krodg (I believe, I pray and I fight.)
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To: Theodore R.
Again, George J. Felos claims there is NO insurance! No one seems to believe him in the least.

Gee, I wonder why...................

TERRI SCHIAVO TO DIE IN ATTORNEY'S "DEATH FACTORY"? SUNCOAST HOSPICE BOSS WAS GEORGE FELOS...

Terri Schiavo, an incapacitated but warmly responsive young woman, is in the care of "The Hospice of the Florida Suncoast" ("Hospice House Woodside") at 300 East Bay Drive, Largo, Florida. But unknown to her advocates, all of Terri's medical care has been influenced by a Past Chairman of the Hospice's Board of Directors - George J. Felos, attorney for Michael Schiavo, and self-described "right-to-die" advocate.

Many of the Hospice nurses, volunteers, and doctors who are charged with the care, feeding, and unbiased medical evaluation of Terri Schiavo worked for George J. Felos, a man who has publically proclaimed that Terri must die....

119 posted on 10/25/2003 9:45:19 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: FR_addict; Theodore R.
Well, the good news is that we sorted it out. Now on to further research about this case.
120 posted on 10/25/2003 10:08:43 PM PDT by Ohioan from Florida
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