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Affidavit of Carla Iyer, nurse who cared for Terri Schiavo from April 1995 to July 1996
Terri's Fight (website established on Terri's behalf by her parents and that side of the family) ^ | August 29, 2003 | Carla Iyer

Posted on 10/23/2003 5:58:54 PM PDT by First_Salute

AFFIDAVIT
_________

STATE OF FLORIDA )
COUNTY OF PINELLAS )

BEFORE ME the undersigned authority personally appeared CARLA
SAUER IYER, R.N., who being first duly sworn, deposes and says:

1. My name is Carla Sauer Iyer. I am over the age of eighteen and make
this statement of my own personal knowledge.

2. I am a registered nurse in the State of Florida, having been licensed
continuously in Florida from 1997 to the present. Prior to that I was a
Licensed Practical Nurse for about four years.

3. I was employed at Palm Garden of Largo Convalescent Center in
Largo, Florida from April 1995 to July 1996, while Terri Schiavo
was a patient there.

4. It was clear to me at Palm Gardens that all decisions regarding Terri
Schiavo were made by Michael Schiavo, with no allowance made for
any discussion, debate or normal professional judgment. My initial
training there consisted solely of the instruction "Do what Michael
Schiavo tells you or you will be terminated." This struck me as
extremely odd.

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5. I was very disturbed by the decision making protocol, as no allowance
whatsoever was made for professional responsibility. The atmosphere
throughout the facility was dominated by Mr. Schiavo's intimidation.
Everyone there, with the exception of several people who seemed to be
close to Michael, was intimidated by him. Michael Schiavo always
had an overbearing attitude, yelling numerous times such things as
"This is my order and you're going to follow it." He is very large and
uses menacing body language, such as standing too close to you,
getting right in your face and practically shouting.

6. To the best of my recollection, rehabilitation had been ordered for
Terri, but I never saw any being done or had any reason at all to
believe that there was ever any rehab of Terri done at Palm Gardens
while I was there. I became concerned because Michael wanted
nothing done for Terri at all, no antibiotics, no tests, no range of
motion therapy, no stimulation, no nothing. Michael said again and
again that Terri should NOT get any rehab, that there should be no
range of motion whatsoever, or anything else. I and a CNA named
Roxy would give Terri range of motion anyway. One time I put a
wash cloth in Terri's hand to keep her fingers from curling together,

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and Michael saw it and made me take it out, saying that was therapy.

7. Terri's medical condition was systematically distorted and
misrepresented by Michael. When I worked with her, she was alert
and oriented. Terri spoke on a regular basis while in my presence,
saying such things as "mommy," and "help me." "Help me" was, in
fact, one of her most frequent utterances. I heard her say it hundreds
of times. Terri would try to say the word "pain" when she was in
discomfort, but it came out more like "pay." She didn't say the "n"
sound very well. During her menses she would indicate her discomfort
by saying "pay" and moving her arms toward her lower abdominal
area. Other ways that she would indicate that she was in pain included
pursing her lips, grimacing, thrashing in bed, curling her toes or
moving her legs around. She would let you know when she had a
bowel movement by flipping up the covers and pulling on her diaper
and scooted in bed on her bottom.

8. When I came into her room and said "Hi, Terri", she would always
recognize my voice and her name, and would turn her head all the way
toward me, saying "Haaaiiiii" sort of, as she did. I recognized this as a
"hi", which is very close to what it sounded like, the whole sound

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being only a second or two long. When I told her humrous stories
about my life or something I read in the paper, Terri would chuckle,
sometimes more a giggle or laugh. She would move her whole body,
upper and lower. Her legs would sometimes be off the bed, and need
to be repositioned. I made numerous entries into the nursing notes in
her chart, stating verbatim what she said and her various behaviors, but
by my next on-duty shift, the notes would be deleted from her chart.
Every time I made a positive entry about any responsiveness of Terri's,
someone would remove it after my shift ended. Michael always
demanded to see her chart as soon as he arrived, and would take it in
her room with him. I documented Terri's rehab potential well,
writing whole pages about Terri's responsiveness, but they would
always be deleted by the next time I saw her chart. The reason I wrote
so much was that everybody else seemed to be afraid to make positive
entries for fear of their jobs, but I felt very strongly that a nurses job
was to accurately record everything we see and hear that bears on a
patients condition and their family. I upheld the Nurses Practice Act,
and if it cost me my job, I was willing to accept that.

9. Throughout my time at Palm Gardens, Michael Schiavo was focused

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on Terri's death. Michael would say "When is she going to die?,"
"Has she died yet?" and "When is that bitch gonna die?" These
statements were common knowledge at Palm Gardens, as he would
make them casually in passing, without regard even for who he was
talking to, as long as it was a staff member. Other statements which I
recall him making include "Can't anything be done to accelerate her
death - won't she ever die?" When she wouldn't die, Michael would
be furious. Michael was also adamant that the family should not be
given information. He made numerous statements such as "Make sure
the parents aren't contacted." I recorded Michael's statements word
for word in Terri's chart, but these entries were also deleted after the
end of my shift. Standing orders were that the family wasn't to be
contacted, in fact, there was a large sign in the front of her chart that
said under no circumstances was her family to be called, call Michael
immediately, but I would call them, anyway, because I thought they
should know about their daughter.

10. Any time Terri would be sick, like with a UTI or fluid buildup in her
lungs, colds, or pneumonia, Michael would be visibly excited, thrilled
even, hoping that she would die. He would say something like,

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"Hallelujah! You've made my day!" He would call me, as I was the
nurse supervisor on the floor, and ask for every little detail about her
temperature, blood pressure, etc., and would call back frequently
asking if she was dead yet. He would blurt out "I'm going to be rich!"
and would talk about all the things he would buy when Terri died,
which included a new car, a new boat, and going to Europe, among
other things.

11. When Michael visited Terri, he always came alone and always had the
door closed and locked while he was with Terri. He would typically
be there about twenty minutes or so. When he left Terri would be
trembling, crying hysterically, and would be very pale and have cold
sweats. It looked to me like Terri was having a hypoglycemic reaction,
so I'd check her blood sugar. The glucometer reading would be so low
it was below the range where it would register an actual number
reading. I would put dextrose in Terri's mouth to counteract it. This
happened about five times on my shift, as I recall. Normally Terri's
blood sugar levels were very stable due to the uniformity of her diet
through tube feeding. It is medically possible that Michael injected
Terri with Regular insulin, which is very fast acting, but I don't have

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any way of knowing for sure.

12. The longer I was employed at Palm Gardens the more concerned I
became about patient care, both relating to Terri Schiavo, for the
reasons I've said, and other patients, too. There was an LPN named
Carolyn Adams, known as "Andy" Adams who was a particular
concern. An unusual number of patients seemed to die on her shift,
but she was completely unconcerned, making statements such as
"They are old - let them die." I couldn't believe her attitude or the fact
that it didn't seem to attract any attention. She made many comments
about Terri being a waste of money, that she should die. She said it
was costing Michael a lot of money to keep her alive, and that he
complained about it constantly (I heard him complain about it all the
time, too.) Both Michael and Adams said that she would be worth
more to him if she were dead. I ultimately called the police relative to
this situation, and was terminated the next day. Other reasons were
cited, but I was convinced it was because of my "rocking the boat."

13. Ms. Adams was one of the people who did not seem to be intimidated
by Michael. In fact, they seemed to be very close, and Adams would
do whatever Michael told her. Michael sometimes called Adams at

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night and spoke at length. I was not able to hear the content of these
phone calls, but I knew it was him talking to her because she would
tell me afterward and relay orders from him.

14. I have contacted the Schindler family because I just couldn't stand by
and let Terri die without the truth being known.

FURTHER AFFIANT SAYETH NAUGHT.

<signed>
CARLA SAUER IYER, R.N.

The foregoing instrument was acknowledged before me this 29 day of August,
2003, by CARLA SAUER IYER, R.N., who produced her Florida's driver's license
as identification, and who did take an oath.

<signed Patricia J. Anderson>
Notary Public

My commission expires
<Notary seal of Patricia J. Anderson>

 


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: abortion; livingwill; michaelschiavo; nursinghome; righttodie; righttolife; schindler; terrischiavo
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
here
161 posted on 10/23/2003 10:29:34 PM PDT by Tribune7 (It's not like he let his secretary drown in his car or something.)
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To: Saundra Duffy
It's a new lawsuit; introduced but not much more than that right now, it seems.
162 posted on 10/23/2003 10:30:31 PM PDT by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: timydnuc
The people who say "no way could this be true" have never worked in the medical field, or have no family member or close friend who does.
164 posted on 10/23/2003 10:34:19 PM PDT by stands2reason ("What you see at fight club is a generation of men raised by women." -- Chuck Palahniuk)
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To: First_Salute
"Please note the dates when the affidavits were taken. None of these nurses are dead. "

Maybe it was just a rumor then. I've heard repeatedly the last few days that they are "no longer with us."
165 posted on 10/23/2003 10:35:03 PM PDT by honeygrl
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
Do you work in the healthcare field?
166 posted on 10/23/2003 10:35:14 PM PDT by stands2reason ("What you see at fight club is a generation of men raised by women." -- Chuck Palahniuk)
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To: First_Salute
So he was never cross-examined when he made the statement about Terri's wishes. I thought as much.
167 posted on 10/23/2003 10:36:38 PM PDT by Shethink13
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To: DB; joanie-f; snopercod
You don't even have to say anything ... but three acquaintances could testify that they heard you say that you did "not want to live that way," and upon your temporary incapacitance, thus provide the evidence for the State of Florida to kill you; dare I say, "Even worse ..." to kill you by starving you to death.

That, according to the judges in Florida, is the wish of the people of Florida.

To quote the modern proverb:

Don't go there.

168 posted on 10/23/2003 10:37:37 PM PDT by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: editor-surveyor
It's time for a national Freep.

LET'S ROLL! Any suggestions?

169 posted on 10/23/2003 10:38:53 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy
You can laugh at me if you want to but I think this is a spiritual battle.

Believe me, Sandra, I would not laugh at your statement. Its a miracle that Terri is still alive after all that's been done to her.

Some good will come of this yet. God does not let someone suffer like this without a purpose (even if His purpose isn't evident).

I can't remember who said it, but I believe this is true: God answers all our prayers. He may not give us the answer we want, but He does answer.

170 posted on 10/23/2003 10:44:57 PM PDT by reformed_democrat
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To: DB; joanie-f; snopercod; TPartyType
Indeed, what the judges have invented, is a new form of partial-life abortion.

To be humane, they should order drug-caused euthanasia; but to create the illusion that you are dying on your own accord by your own inability to live, they resort, instead, to starving you to death.

It's the same twisted thinking that judicial activists use to support partial-birth abortions, by such judges' invention that as long as the brain remains in the womb, you're not born ... yet ... and if the brain does not survive the trip exiting the "birth canal" or "birth portal" or "from behind the magic vail" ... the illusion is completed that the infant died of its own accord.

171 posted on 10/23/2003 10:47:13 PM PDT by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Catspaw
I have a question ----since you question the validity of these affidavits, can you give me a reasonable assumption why these three women would lie? I can't think of one, but that doesn't mean there isn't one.


Also, have you ever worked in the healthcare profession?
172 posted on 10/23/2003 10:47:45 PM PDT by stands2reason ("What you see at fight club is a generation of men raised by women." -- Chuck Palahniuk)
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To: Catspaw
"My son couldn't have committed the crime. He was with me all night," when sonny boy was out murdering or raping someone (and sometimes both).

Interesting example. The motive for lting appears to be plainly obvious in that case.

173 posted on 10/23/2003 10:49:12 PM PDT by stands2reason ("What you see at fight club is a generation of men raised by women." -- Chuck Palahniuk)
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To: snopercod
P.S.

The State Department ought to post a WARNING about going to Florida; Don't Go, You Could Wake Up Dead!

174 posted on 10/23/2003 10:51:09 PM PDT by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Saundra Duffy
VOTE FOR TERRI ON CNN

http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/10/23/coma.woman/index.html

MCD
175 posted on 10/23/2003 10:54:29 PM PDT by MSCASEY
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To: Saundra Duffy
VOTE FOR TERRI ON CNN

http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/10/23/coma.woman/index.html

MCD
176 posted on 10/23/2003 10:58:01 PM PDT by MSCASEY
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To: The Red Zone
Or any kind of communication even yes-no that is sufficient to recount what happened.

No, she'd need more than that. Otherwise, her lawyer'd have to be very careful to not "lead the witness"----very difficult to do with only "yes" and "no" responses.

177 posted on 10/23/2003 10:59:19 PM PDT by stands2reason ("What you see at fight club is a generation of men raised by women." -- Chuck Palahniuk)
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To: Saundra Duffy
You can laugh at me if you want to but I think this is a spiritual battle.

Yes it is and it's no laughing matter.

178 posted on 10/23/2003 11:02:59 PM PDT by Krodg (I believe, I pray and I fight.)
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To: First_Salute
I though Florida law was "clear and convincing evidence" in lieu of a living will to be "allowed to die".
179 posted on 10/23/2003 11:05:06 PM PDT by stands2reason ("What you see at fight club is a generation of men raised by women." -- Chuck Palahniuk)
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To: stands2reason
Understand..I am a doctor, and I have been in these facilities. I'm not saying this is wrong and untrue, I'm saying, investigate. I think that there is plenty of reason to do so (I think they call it 'probable cause'). I want the truth behind this, and it should be a matter worth an acute and through investigation. Before I condemn my brethern I want to hear facts!
180 posted on 10/23/2003 11:06:53 PM PDT by timydnuc (qFR)
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