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FLA. SENATE GETS INTO COMATOSE WOMAN TIFF (AP HEADLINE); SENATE VOTE EXPECTED BY TONIGHT
Associated Press ^ | Oct. 21, 2003 | Associated Press

Posted on 10/21/2003 5:55:07 AM PDT by varina davis

Fla. Senate Gets Into Comatose Woman Tiff

October 21, 2003 07:49 AM EDT

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. - Florida House lawmakers stepped into the contentious battle over the fate of a brain-damaged woman slowly starving to death, voting the governor new powers to restore her feeding tube.

The Florida Senate scheduled a vote Tuesday on a House-passed bill to let Gov. Jeb Bush intervene in the case of Terri Schiavo, one of the nation's longest and most bitter euthanasia cases.

Schiavo has been at the center of a court battle between her parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, and her husband, Michael Schiavo. The parents want Terri Schiavo to live, and her husband says she would rather die.

The Florida Supreme Court has twice refused to hear the case, and it also has been rejected for review by the U.S. Supreme Court. Last week, a Florida appeals court again refused to block removal of the tube.

The House measure would give the state's governor 15 days to order a feeding tube to be reinserted in cases like Schiavo's. The governor's power would be limited to cases where a person has left no living will, is in a persistent vegetative state, has had nutrition and hydration tubes removed and where a family member has challenged the removal.

Bush said in a statement earlier Monday that lawmakers understand the "unique and tragic circumstances of Ms. Schiavo's case, and I am hopeful the Legislature will pass a bill immediately."

The House voted 68-23 for the bill late Monday. The Senate Rules Committee planned to take the bill up Tuesday morning, with the full Senate scheduling a vote by early evening.

George Felos, attorney for Michael Schiavo, said he thinks the legislation would be unconstitutional. He said it is Terri Schiavo's right under the Florida Constitution to not be kept alive artificially.

Court-appointed doctors have described the 39-year-old woman as being in a vegetative state, caused when her heart stopped in 1990 from a suspected chemical imbalance. Her feeding tube was removed Wednesday.

Doctor said she will die in a week to 10 days without the tube.

Schiavo's family members believe she is capable of learning how to eat and drink on her own and say she has shown signs of trying to communicate and could be rehabilitated. Michael Schiavo says he is carrying out his wife's wishes that she not be kept alive artificially.

During a two-hour debate in the House, several Democrats argued that the Constitution doesn't allow the Legislature to give governors the power to overrule the courts.

"This bill so oversteps our role it ... turns democracy on its head," Rep. Dan Gelber said.

But Republicans said that where judges might be wrong, especially in cases like Schiavo's, such legislation is desperately needed.

"The Constitution is supposed to protect the people of this state," said Rep. Sandy Murman. "Who is protecting this girl?"

The House action came hours after a state agency for the disabled asked a U.S. judge in Tampa to keep the woman alive so it could investigate a claim that she is being abused by having the tube removed. The judge was expected to rule as early as Tuesday.


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KEYWORDS: ap; assininepress; senate; terri; vote
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To: mtbopfuyn
Wow, I just now saw for the FIRST time news of Terri on FNC. Of course it was only 15 seconds but at least it was something.

They have been reporting on this case in the News here is Philly

21 posted on 10/21/2003 6:11:27 AM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: TaxRelief
The Schindlers ask again, "Please do not threaten the lives of the legislators, as this may turn them against Terri!"

I find it stunning that they have to state the obvious!

22 posted on 10/21/2003 6:12:34 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (You may forget the one with whom you have laughed, but never the one with whom you have wept.)
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To: mtbopfuyn
Wow, I just now saw for the FIRST time news of Terri on FNC. Of course it was only 15 seconds but at least it was something.

I know! I couldn't believe it, first time in what 3, 4 days?

23 posted on 10/21/2003 6:12:47 AM PDT by ET(end tyranny) ( Deuteronomy 32:37 -- And he shall say, Where are their gods, their rock in whom they trusted,)
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To: MarMema
Sorry, after rereading what they have posted:

S 0012E
Last Action: Governor/One-time Stay
10/20/2003 S Filed; Referred to Rules and Calendar; On Committee agenda-- Rules and Calendar, 10/21/03, 8:00 am, 37-S

The Rules and Calendar Committee(s) will be taking it up this morning at 8:00. Not the full Senate

24 posted on 10/21/2003 6:13:56 AM PDT by ordinaryguy
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To: mtbopfuyn
I am looking for Fox's email address. I want to ask them not to refer to mc as Terri's husband...........better to use the term estranged husband.
25 posted on 10/21/2003 6:14:26 AM PDT by mickie
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To: varina davis
several Democrats argued that the Constitution doesn't allow the Legislature to give governors the power to overrule the courts.

If the judges cannot be overruled some means, then they have complete control over whatever, wherever and whenever they choose.

That isn't called "republican democracy". That's called a "dictatorship"!

26 posted on 10/21/2003 6:14:39 AM PDT by Gritty
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To: MarMema
Everything says this morning, including the senate site.

Sounds like maybe the debating will during the day and the vote will come later this evening

If this is passed .. how long before it goes into effect?

27 posted on 10/21/2003 6:15:16 AM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: varina davis
Comatose Woman Tiff

This headline writer has an odd way of describing a woman (that's a human being, get it?) who is on the verge of being starved to death.

28 posted on 10/21/2003 6:15:20 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ordinaryguy
So when in the Senate?
29 posted on 10/21/2003 6:15:22 AM PDT by MarMema (KILLING ISN'T MEDICINE)
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To: Cicero
I agree. "Tiff" is hardly an appropriate word to describe a historic legal case.
30 posted on 10/21/2003 6:16:59 AM PDT by varina davis
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To: MarMema
I suppose that is up to the 'Calendar Committee'.

Apparently no sooner than 6:45PM.

Sigh...

31 posted on 10/21/2003 6:17:24 AM PDT by ordinaryguy
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To: Cicero
I would think that since it has passed in the House that they ought, OUGHT to re-insert the feeding tube, pending this vote. They sure are dragging this out. Why couldn't they call an emergency session, and postpone the session regarding rules and agenda?
32 posted on 10/21/2003 6:17:32 AM PDT by ET(end tyranny) ( Deuteronomy 32:37 -- And he shall say, Where are their gods, their rock in whom they trusted,)
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To: Gritty
That isn't called "republican democracy". That's called a "dictatorship"!

Why do you think Clinton and the Dems packed the courts with liberals

Which is why they are fighting so hard now to deny Judges from a vote in DC

33 posted on 10/21/2003 6:17:59 AM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: TaxRelief
The Schindlers ask again, "Please do not threaten the lives of the legislators, as this may turn them against Terri!"

I do not advocate anyone threatening anyone's life, including Michael Schiavo's. However, some slimy politicians will only respond when they sense real danger to themselves.

34 posted on 10/21/2003 6:19:14 AM PDT by SwordofTruth
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To: ordinaryguy
Thanks.
35 posted on 10/21/2003 6:20:12 AM PDT by MarMema (KILLING ISN'T MEDICINE)
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To: Gritty
Funny, now the Democrats are all exercised about strict interpretation of enumerated powers. Where were they during the FDR years?
36 posted on 10/21/2003 6:20:14 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Mo1
John Scott said she's "been in a
VEGETATIVE state for 13 years".

WHY do they use THAT word?!?!?
37 posted on 10/21/2003 6:20:15 AM PDT by txrangerette
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To: TaxRelief
Brilliant. Positively brilliant.
38 posted on 10/21/2003 6:21:38 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: Cicero
I thought that was incredibly callous of them as well.
39 posted on 10/21/2003 6:22:06 AM PDT by Aggie Mama
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To: varina davis
"..."The Constitution is supposed to protect the people of this state," said Rep. Sandy Murman. "Who is protecting this girl?"..."

For that matter, who protects the lives of the about-to-be aborted?

This is truly barbaric. I hope and pray Florida does the right thing in this case. I also hope and pray that her "husband" NEVER gets a penny of the million + for the death of his LEGAL wife. Terri didn't ask for this, but Michael is greasing the skids for her to die. What part of one's being has to be shut down to do something like this. He is a cold-hearted bas---d! As others have said on other related threads, the woman that Michael is banging better start re-evaluating the nature of their assocciation. It happened to Terri, it can happen to her. It is said that after the first kill, the others are easier to do. Michael is doing just that. To he!! with him and others of his ilk.
40 posted on 10/21/2003 6:22:53 AM PDT by NCC-1701 ((Good luck, happy hunting, and God-speed to the US military and our allies in this operation.))
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