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To: CSM
No business relies on the government, unless otherwise they would not be competitive.

Yes they do. Without govt', every transaction would be dependent on the power of the individual to enforce. It quickly becomes a system of might makes right.

We need gov't to create property and protect property rights. We need gov't to provide a framework in which transactions occur and provide the methods of enforcing.

Pure libertarianism is chaos and business cannot thrive in chaos.

256 posted on 10/20/2003 11:54:39 AM PDT by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: VRWC_minion
We need gov't to create property and protect property rights.

Your words, guy.
You just shot your entire argument in the foot with your own words.

260 posted on 10/20/2003 12:01:16 PM PDT by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: VRWC_minion
We need gov't to create property and protect property rights.

We need government to enforce contracts entered into between individuals.

Government does not create property.

Strapping myself in and preparing for another of your Warp-9, sleep-inducing "arguments" about how your hero government does indeed "create" property.

263 posted on 10/20/2003 12:04:12 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: VRWC_minion
"We need gov't to create property and protect property rights. "

And you have come full circle! Now you need the government to protect property rights, when the business owner wants to allow smoking on their private property you think the government should take their rights!

Now to address your post: Individuals to enforce every transaction, that is the entire premise of a transaction. One thing of value is traded for another thing of value. Have you ever heard of bartering?

The government does not create property and an individual can protect their property better than any government agency. The government doesn't provide a framework in which transactions occur and they don't do any enforcing. The framework is provided by two or more parties agreeing to specified terms trading items or services of value. The only thing the government provides a framework for is the confiscation of some of that value from all the parties involved for the government budget.

Removing government intervention from business would grow business exponentially and we would see more new products on the market and creativity would once again be rewarded.

I don't see what removing government intervention and returning to a free market has to do with libertarianism.

You are digging the bigger government hole deeper with every post you make. I suggest you actually take an econ course at your local CC.
265 posted on 10/20/2003 12:04:48 PM PDT by CSM (Congrats to Flurry and LE!)
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To: VRWC_minion
We need gov't to create property

Now you are just being silly.

272 posted on 10/20/2003 12:08:35 PM PDT by Grit (Tolerance for all but the intolerant...and those who tolerate intolerance etc etc)
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