Schiavo Case Could Cause Change In Law

TBO.com ^ | October 19, 2003 | DAVID SOMMER

[Pan_Yans Wife]

Because Greer has been consistently upheld, the Health Care Advance Directives Law stands as both constitutional and enforceable, Felos and the law professors said.

Has there been any attempt to get this law overturned?

[wingnuts'nbolts]

But by then Terri will be dead, murdered by law, her widower remarried and home free all of all charges of foul play, her mother and father devastated and the case for euthenasia advanced by this liberal judge and scandalous Lawyer, who has an interest in the Hospice where this is being played out. Makes me ashamed of the Florida Courts and their liberal legislative law writing judges.

Ask not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee.

[Pan_Yans Wife]

Of course it tolls for me.

That doesn't mean that the Schiavo's have any other legal recourse. The end is near.

They should have been urging a change in Florida law years ago. Why is the legislature so silent? Why are the people of Florida so silent?

[hedgetrimmer]

Because Greer has been consistently upheld, the Health Care Advance Directives Law stands as both constitutional and enforceable

I don't believe because a law has been upheld by one judge that it necessarily is Constitutional. In fact, the constitutionality of the law has never been questioned, just its application. This is clearly an attempt to brainwash people into thinking euthanasia is OK.

[philetus]

"Why is the legislature so silent? Why are the people of Florida so silent?"

Why are thousands of Terri's supporters not marching towards the hospital, armed with 2x4's, picks, shovels, bats.etc.?

[Pan_Yans Wife]

The problem is that Judge Greer has the power to interpret the law and rule as he deems appropriate.

Perhaps he should now be impeached.

[syriacus]

In September 1990... the Supreme Court ruled that Floridians have the right to refuse medical treatment, no matter what the treatment or the prognosis.

September, 1990 is after Terri's alleged comment, "No tubes for me."

Terri "collapsed" in January of 1990, many months before the FSS Court decision, which makes it easy to remove feeding tubes.

George Felos, Mike Schiavo, and George W. Greer are, in effect, retroactively applying the September 1990 decision to Terri .

If the law is changed to in a way that would give jail time to those who remove food tubes in uncertain circumstances, I hope Felos, Greer, and Schiavo have it retroactively applied to them.

Looks like permission from the Pinellas/Pasco Medical Examiner will be needed if Mike-el Diablo decides to cremate Terri's body.
XI. CREMATION APPROVAL (Florida Statutes 406.11(1)(c))

Will Greer try to arrange a way for Mike to circumvent Florida law?

[INSENSITIVE GUY]

There should be a change in the law.Something needs to be done to take power away from judges as they lack both the moral graces and the intelligence required to make life or death decisions.

[hedgetrimmer]

Perhaps he should now be impeached.

That would be a very good start.

[syriacus]

We've learned that the judge is the ultimate guardian for the patient.

Guardians with control over patients lives should be required to speak directly with their wards.

If nothing else, there should be a law that forces judges like Greer to visit the patients, perhaps to try to communicate with the patients, to see if they can indicate what their wishes are. Witnesses and experts at communicating with the disabled should be present. The video tape should be rolling as the judge asks the questions.

Someone should make sure that the patients have not recently been given drugs that would make them unable to respond. (I wonder if Terri has ever been "doped up," to make her less responsive during examinations.)

[Coral Snake]

I am not refering to the POSTER here just the article itself.

QUIT CALLING THE ORIGINAL CAUSE FOR TERRI'S DISSABILITY A HEART ATTACK YOU MEDIA JERKS!!!! This is a CRIMINAL CASE from start with clear evidence in that direction and I wonder why people ARE NOT SEEING IT!!!!

[supercat]

But by then Terri will be dead, murdered by law, her widower remarried and home free all of all charges of foul play, her mother and father devastated and the case for euthenasia advanced by this liberal judge and scandalous Lawyer, who has an interest in the Hospice where this is being played out. Makes me ashamed of the Florida Courts and their liberal legislative law writing judges.

That Terri has survived 13 years despite earlier attempts to have her die off from dehydration, infection, etc. suggests to me she has a pretty da?n strong will to live. If she wanted to be dead, she would have been long ago.

Whether or not she survives this, though, if the attention she's received helps unwind the Culture of Death a little bit, her 13-year struggle for life will not have been in vain. [Of course, I hope she lives.]

[supercat]

Looks like permission from the Pinellas/Pasco Medical Examiner will be needed if Mike-el Diablo decides to cremate Terri's body.

Did you note that it also requires a positive determination of the initiating event of her demise (which, per Felos et al., would be her 1990 collapse)? And further it requires that any evidence of trauma be examined.

Seems to me that the Pinellas County Medical Examiner should do an inquest to determine whether any of Terri's trauma could be related to her initial collapse.

[texaslil]

I sure as heck see it. There's no other explanation for why this creep wants this woman killed when it's no skin off his nose to have her returned to her parents. Medical miracles happen all the time and there's too much chance she might tell what happened to her. Also--there's the million plus settlement, or what ever is left of it to be inherited. A clear conflict of interest. Florida law and tort law should be ammended to RETURN UNUSED MONIES awarded for the care and rehabilitation of such recipients to the insurers in the event that any amounts remain after a patient dies and/or it never used for the intended purpose, as in this case. After all, he received something of a kings ransom for himself seperately for loss of companionship. One might call it "The Lead us Not Into Temptation Law." As far as this monster wanting to "get on with his life," hasn't anyone noticed he has done that? For what it's worth--if I was the "new little chippie," I'd sleep with one eye open, after checking to see how much insurance was riding on me.

[supercat]

For what it's worth--if I was the "new little chippie," I'd sleep with one eye open, after checking to see how much insurance was riding on me.

I'd be setting up a new address and, if I were unscrupulous, opening up an offshore bank account. Wouldn't it be truly fitting if Michael woke up one morning with his fiancée gone and soon thereafter received an anonymous note "IF YOU DON'T WANT ANYONE TO KNOW XXX, DEPOSIT $500,000 IN BANK YYYYY ACCOUNT ZZZZZ BEFORE 12PM TOMORROW"?

[honeygrl]

Breaking news on terrisfight.org:
http://www.terrisfight.org/lead.htm

IMPORTANT UPDATE ON HOW JEB IS TRYING TO HELP
This person wanted this word to be spread:

Please help to get this info. spread out on other places here and on the net, etc. to individuals, and others you deem should be made aware. Let them know to convey the same info. to others.

Regards.

Please get this info. out:

Contact: Pamela Hennessy

Terri Schindler-Schiavo Foundation

Phone 727-445-1766

eFax 802-609-9121
email: phenn@zimp.org


Press Release

Special Session Called in State Legislature

Speaker of the House, Johnnie Byrd to introduce “Terri’s Bill”

Clearwater, FL October 19, 2003: The Governor of Florida, Jeb Bush, has called a special session of the Florida Legislature for Monday, October 20, 2003. At that time, Florida’s Speaker of the House will introduce “Terri’s Bill”. By Florida law, two thirds majority vote are required to have a topic entered.

Volunteers with the Terri Schindler-Schiavo Foundation have learned that Senate President, Jim King is against this bill.

The Bill would put an immediate moratorium on all dehydration and starvation deaths currently pending in Florida.

We have come to a time when the merchants of death have created a constitutional crisis and a justice gridlock, while the rightful life of Florida’s disabled and vulnerable citizens tragically hang on Terri Schindler-Schiavo’s court ordered dehydration and starvation death.

We urge all concerned Floridians to contact their Senators and State House members to vote for Terri’s bill.

Time is short.


77 posted on 10/19/2003 8:49 PM EDT by pc93 (A good site to visit is http://www.terrisfight.org . Oct. 15th 2pm death order must be stopped)

[Pan_Yans Wife]

THANKS!

[honeygrl]

There was a thread made about it but it was pulled due to not having a link to the article (i think that was the reason). I just PRAY that it's not too late! The guys doing the voting need to be emailed by as many as possible so they know just how many people they would upset if they voted no!

[nmh]

Folks have a living will drawn up that state your desires on this kind of issue.