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To: Don Joe
"That sort of blind party line obedience scares the poop out of me, w/no gold nuggets."

As I've been saying in another thread, the reason -I- care is because you're lynching Bush as a ritual sacrifice instead of admitting the real problem, which is that the judiciary run our country.

I'd be saying this even if the governor in question was a Democrat I wanted out of power. Even -he- couldn't do anything.

NO ONE CAN TOUCH A JUDGE EXCEPT ANOTHER JUDGE. Face it. Realize it. Internalize it. It's over. The only constitutional power that can affect judges belongs to the legislature, which allows them to impeach a judge. And if they tried it, I have no doubt they would turn around and say they can't do that because it's unconstitutional. Who could stop them?

I'm not going to repost everything I said on this subject - I have a feeling no one is willing to listen anyway. But if someone cares, if anyone detects even a kernel of truth in what I'm saying, go read what I said on the last page of the "BUSH CAN SAVE TERRI" thread.

I'm not defending Bush because I like Bush or party loyalty. If it was a Democrat Governor, I'd still be pointing out to you that the person that did this was a JUDGE, not a Governor.

And you're living in a dreamland if you think a Governor can even -touch- a Judge in raw power in our country anymore.

Qwinn
305 posted on 10/18/2003 1:51:45 AM PDT by Qwinn
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To: Qwinn
Correction, the thread where I made the case for what I'm saying is titled:

"Jeb Bush CAN STOP death of TERRI SCHIAVO !!! CALL!!!"

But I know that no one will care. It's uncomfortable to realize that even GEORGE Bush, the person we -think- is the most powerful man in the world, couldn't change a thing that this measly low-level Judge has decreed.

Cause how can you change anything a Judge does, when all he has to do is say "You don't have the power to do that"? Cause when there's a dispute between a judge and anyone else, who do you call to settle the dispute? Why... a judge!

Qwinn
307 posted on 10/18/2003 1:58:17 AM PDT by Qwinn
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To: Qwinn
As I've been saying in another thread, the reason -I- care is because you're lynching Bush as a ritual sacrifice instead of admitting the real problem, which is that the judiciary run our country

If two guys -- a bad guy and a good guy -- come up to me, and the bad guy throws my kid into the ditch, and the good guy just stands there as she drowns, and explains to me how he's not licensed to do ditch work in my county, you're damn straight I'll remember that on election day.

NO ONE CAN TOUCH A JUDGE EXCEPT ANOTHER JUDGE. Face it. Realize it. Internalize it. It's over. The only constitutional power that can affect judges belongs to the legislature, which allows them to impeach a judge. And if they tried it, I have no doubt they would turn around and say they can't do that because it's unconstitutional. Who could stop them?

No one is asking anyone to "touch a judge" (ugh, what a revolting word picture you paint)

We're merely asking someone -- with the power to do so -- to stop a murder.

You talk like someone who's chickenboxed into the lawyerworld mindset. I got news for you. Things CAN happen without a lawyer -- even a ROBED lawyer -- saying "Simon Says."

That our "leaders" won't so much as fart without a "legal opinion" backing them up is a sad, sad commentary on just how far we've slid as a culture.

HOW you can say, "the real problem, [is] that the judiciary run[s] our country" -- when Bushie won't even flap his jaw without having his lawyers toss a dozen Chings for him to divine the current wind -- is so far beyond me that I can barely see it fading over the horizon.

Did Teddy Roosevelt call in the lawyers when he sent the Marines to Tripoli?

Comes a time to say damn the lawyers, full speed ahead.

It's called LEADERSHIP. There's another word for the sort of person who won't do a damn thing until it's cleared with the lawyers. I'll leave figuring out what that word is as an exercise to the reader. I'm too tired. I haven't slept in close to 20 hours, and I didn't sleep more than a few hours in the day before that. My health is shot; my heart is ruined, my spine is decomposing, and I don't do sleep-deprivation well.

G'nite, all.

308 posted on 10/18/2003 2:04:42 AM PDT by Don Joe
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