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To: Qwinn
As I've been saying in another thread, the reason -I- care is because you're lynching Bush as a ritual sacrifice instead of admitting the real problem, which is that the judiciary run our country

If two guys -- a bad guy and a good guy -- come up to me, and the bad guy throws my kid into the ditch, and the good guy just stands there as she drowns, and explains to me how he's not licensed to do ditch work in my county, you're damn straight I'll remember that on election day.

NO ONE CAN TOUCH A JUDGE EXCEPT ANOTHER JUDGE. Face it. Realize it. Internalize it. It's over. The only constitutional power that can affect judges belongs to the legislature, which allows them to impeach a judge. And if they tried it, I have no doubt they would turn around and say they can't do that because it's unconstitutional. Who could stop them?

No one is asking anyone to "touch a judge" (ugh, what a revolting word picture you paint)

We're merely asking someone -- with the power to do so -- to stop a murder.

You talk like someone who's chickenboxed into the lawyerworld mindset. I got news for you. Things CAN happen without a lawyer -- even a ROBED lawyer -- saying "Simon Says."

That our "leaders" won't so much as fart without a "legal opinion" backing them up is a sad, sad commentary on just how far we've slid as a culture.

HOW you can say, "the real problem, [is] that the judiciary run[s] our country" -- when Bushie won't even flap his jaw without having his lawyers toss a dozen Chings for him to divine the current wind -- is so far beyond me that I can barely see it fading over the horizon.

Did Teddy Roosevelt call in the lawyers when he sent the Marines to Tripoli?

Comes a time to say damn the lawyers, full speed ahead.

It's called LEADERSHIP. There's another word for the sort of person who won't do a damn thing until it's cleared with the lawyers. I'll leave figuring out what that word is as an exercise to the reader. I'm too tired. I haven't slept in close to 20 hours, and I didn't sleep more than a few hours in the day before that. My health is shot; my heart is ruined, my spine is decomposing, and I don't do sleep-deprivation well.

G'nite, all.

308 posted on 10/18/2003 2:04:42 AM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Don Joe
What you're asking Bush to do is start a Revolution. You think I'm kidding. I'm not kidding. He would have to send in troops, at which point Greer would order him arrested, and make no mistake, he WOULD be arrested. And then the troops would be told by the Judge to stop and go home, and the order for Terri's death would continue.

If Bush tried any other challenge at the Judge, there would then be a dispute between them, would there not?

And who do you call when there is a dispute? A Judge.

Bush knows that by law anything he did would be settled by another, and actually probably the SAME, Judge. If a higher court refused to hear it (which they did, and THEY are the ones you should be mad at), then GREER would be the one to decide if Bush could challenge Greer!

The comparison to sending troops to Tripoli isn't even remotely connected to anything I'm saying. Now if Tripoli had been ruled by an American Judge, then it might have bearing.

The executive branch and legislative branch wield a lot of power... against anyone EXCEPT an American Judge. They have more power to invade another country than they do to challenge a Judge.

There is nothing Bush can do except start Civil War II.

Have you ever seen the executive branch or legislative branch successfully challenge a Judge in your lifetime? I know I haven't. You can see Judges take down mayors, governors, representatives, senators... they can even throw out voter referendums... but when have you ever seen a Judge's decree overturned except by another Judge?

You're missing the most important lesson of this whole thing. It's going right over your head. And the Tyranny of the Judiciary will continue, because you CAN'T attack the Judge who is killing Terri. You can't even touch him with a lawyer. It was tried. And who got to rule on whether Greer could do what he did? Greer.

So you'll hurt who you -can- hurt. Jeb. Even though it's not Jeb hurting Terri, it's Greer. But you know you can't hurt Greer. You can hurt Jeb. And yet, you think it's Jeb that has the power. And you don't see the irony.

Qwinn
310 posted on 10/18/2003 2:16:53 AM PDT by Qwinn
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