Posted on 10/17/2003 2:03:11 PM PDT by mr_griz
My cats are more merciful to the occasional darwin-driven mouse that finds its way inside.
And they don't have any malice toward the mice either, which is more than we can say for the vipers who are killing Terri.
What will they do, shoot?
I presume so.
They might be as upset as people pushing in. It will be too late once she's gone. How will history view this?
No one can say for sure, but I'd say the way history views Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot might be a good barometer.
Does this woman WANT to live?
Yes.
Are you seriously asking about what she knew in a hypothetical question? Well, then yes, let's assume, she knew what extraordinary efforts meant, and that definition includes forced feeding.
Yes.
And you know this how?
I would not initiate violence...but I would either get her out of there and defend her life against the violence they are already committing upon her, or I would have to be clubbed into unconsciousness in the attempt.
THEY AR STARVING HER TO DEATH FOR GOD'S SAKE!
The violence has already been committed. What are people willing to do to protect the innocent?
If we will not stand for one of our own, innocent children when they are doing this to her...irrespective of whether it is the government or a thug...then we will roll over for anything!
He asked the best legal minds in the land what he should do. They told him in no uncertain terms how he could save her, and, that he was legally obligated to save her.
He dismissed their advice. I guess he was hoping they'd tell him it's hopeless, so that he'd have an excuse for his continued inaction.
He has no excuse.
His political career is over. Maybe his brother Neil can tell him how to melt down a Savings and Loan. Silverado II?
What can Jeb do, legally?
Nor could she eloquently answer if they had. Easier things to ask would be, "Would you like to eat?" or "Do you want to live?"
Essentially, they did. They told her that unless she was able to get herself out of that hospice, they were going to kill her. She immediately became very agitated and tried to get out of her chair.
What is being done to this woman is evil beyond description. Beyond comprehension.
Nope. Not even close.
Bush could save her inside of an hour. WAY inside of an hour.
But he won't.
It would take something he is congenitally lacking. Character, integrity, and courage.
He is a politician. He is a coward.
His failings have finally caught up with him.
In his efforts to save his job -- by avoiding conflict with the atrocious Florica courts -- he has kissed goodbye to his career.
The man had presidential ambitions. He his vain effort to salvage his term-limited-out governorship, he has destroyed any chance of becoming president.
If he grew a set, and stood up to these monsters, and saved this woman's life, then yes, maybe he would lose his job.
But he would be carried into the White House on the shoulders of millions in the biggest landslide in history.
People are sick and tired of politicians. They yearn for a statesman -- a man with the courage to be a man when it's necessary.
Instead, they get a spineless, gutless wimp, who is handed on a golden platter the opportunity to BE a hero -- and instead, he chooses to be a coward.
Bush is a loser.
Link?
Even if I did do all those active things, but all the while proclaiming that it was God's will, I would be justifying the evil acts. I would be giving ammo to the enemy. I am not questioning anyone's faith. I am questioning the claim that God wants this to happen. I've heard it many times on these threads, and it is not true. God, on occassion does intervene, and perform mighty miracles on behalf of the oppressed. However, many times He does not, but instead let's those that choose evil carry out their horrid plans and keeps careful record to justly accuse them after they die.
If He intervened in every evil act, pretty soon there would be no choice left but for everyone to choose the right. That would thwart His plan for us, and institute the mother of all dictatorships.
We are responsible for taking a stand. Taking a stand, and couching it with, "if the bad thing happens, it is God's will", almost nullifies your stand. What if the founder's of this nation, at every battle they lost and consoled themselves with "It is God's will." Pretty soon, they would have lost heart and quit trying. Keep the fire, people! Never give up, and Don't say that when evil succeeds, it is God's will!
"Forced feeding"?
My, aren't we rather free with the language tonight, Mr. Orwell.
BTW, in addition to her food tube NOT being "forced feeding", it was ILLEGAL to withdraw it at the time she "allegedly" made that statement.
In other words, even IF she said "No tubes for me!", she could NOT have been speaking about a FOOD tube, because that was simply not done, period.
Regardless, the fact that the courts have even prohibited SPOON feeding renders your entire absurd excuse for an argument moot.
So, it looks like that's it for The Other One.
Apologies to Jerry Garcia, not to you. :)
Plenty.
Go read the documents on Terri's website -- written in the past few days by the best legal minds in the country, after Bush ASKED them for advice.
Advice, by the way, that he summarily dismissed upon its arrival. I guess he was hoping they'd tell him his hands were tied.
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